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Builders ‘forced to work on £100 million gipsy camps’. All aboard for the freekin merry-go-roun

I was too tired and too disgusted and too PO’d to post this yesterday. I’m not too tired today and disgust has taken a break. For now.

This may be maddening to me personally and perhaps those folks lurking or passing through who are located here. But it is no less interesting.
My views and solutions on the subject are by now well known.  No need to repeat em here again.  That said however, while I say things I really mean at the time I say em, they are said also in extreme anger and frustration.  Perhaps even more frustration when I see the authorities caving in and appeasing ppl I think of as criminals and vandals.  Make no mistake though please.  I haven’t entirely backed off my opinion on the subject.  But some cooler heads (like LyndonB and Drew) have written things in such a way that I got to wondering just where my solutions might end.  See, the problem is that I can’t claim to have it all completely right.
I just want to hit out and be done with it and let the chips fall wherever.  Well, some of those chips could just as easily fall on me as well as on those whose breathing I think is a waste.  I think it’s called, the law of unintended consequences.  Anger will do that to people.  Is it all the fault of the people called Travelers?
Nope. Mostly it’s the fault of the sluggish and overly accommodating politically correct system in place and run by total idiots.  Politically Correct should be replaced by a new term.
May I suggest ... Politically Stupid, in its place.


Ministers have been accused of using underhand tactics to force through the construction of new gipsy camps at a cost to taxpayers of £100 million.

By David Barrett, Home Affairs Correspondent

Councils have been told by the Government to develop the permanent traveller sites, but officials fear that construction firms will avoid bidding for the work for fear of becoming the target of protests.

Now a guidance note sent to town halls by the Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) recommends that in cases where no bids are received, the gipsy projects should be made part of a larger package of less controversial building work.

Firms which wanted to take on the bigger contracts would have no choice but to work on the gipsy sites.

The Conservatives last night accused ministers of “bullying” construction firms, while campaigners opposing plans for gipsy camps in their neighbourhoods said it was another example of the authorities using unfair methods to force the plans through.

Latest government figures show that the number of gipsy and traveller caravans in England has increased by more than 1,200 in the last two years to 17,900, a rise of eight per cent.

The DCLG guidance note to councils, headed “Risk register for delivery of work on gypsy and traveller site”, lists a series of problems which may arise in building the camps, and suggests a solution to each problem.

One of the problems is state as: “Difficulties in securing tenders for works from contractors”. The proposed solution is: “Package works with other projects”.

Kurt Calder of the National Federation of Builders criticised the plans to “bundle” contracts.

He said: “I think it is an attempt to force the hand of construction firms. It would be unfortunate if a contractor – at a very difficult time for the industry – has to take on a contract that they wouldn’t usually have wanted to take on, because that is not a good basis for an efficient and fair relationship. It needs openness and clarity.”

The gipsy site plans had “potential for conflict”, he said, and raised the prospect that contractors would find themselves the subject of protests and intimidation from angry locals protesting against the development of the camps.

He added that many builders would think twice before bidding to develop a gipsy site, because of strained relations between construction firms and some groups of travellers.

One builder from north-west England, who did not wish to be named, said that he would not consider bidding for work on gipsy camps because his firm had last year lost up to £30,000 in supplies and equipment in a theft attributed to travellers.

The Government has allocated £100 million over three years to house 25,000 gipsies and travellers on new and upgraded sites, with ministers saying the programme will reduce the disturbance caused by illegal camps.

The first 43 locations which have already been handed nearly £30 million in grants were revealed by The Sunday Telegraph in January.

New sites developed under the DCLG plans will be supervised by wardens.

Each gipsy family will be given a “pitch” including space for three caravans, a brick-built bungalow with a day room, kitchen and bathroom, and parking for additional vehicles.

Bob Neill, the shadow local government minister, said: “Irrespective of local opinion, the Government is imposing new traveller camps on local communities, exploiting compulsory purchase powers and disregarding Green Belt protection.

THE REST OF THE ARTICLE IS HERE

Please,Please read the rest of this at the link above.

Drew and LyndonB had the following to add in emails and it is an example of cooler heads then the only one I own.
I have edited only slightly.  For American readers, High Street here is the main street in cities and towns.  Hope I have that right.

Drew’s take on my original posts on the Traveler subject.

What was once a minor annoyance has become a national plague, and the government there goes out of their way to encourage it. They won’t deport them, they won’t support the rights of the actual property owners, it’s rare when they even prosecute the criminals within that group - and there are many! - and those convicted are soon out on the street again. Soapbox has failed. The ballot box has failed. The jury box is rarely used, but it’s power is severely diminished by the “reform” rules in effect. That leaves the cartridge box.

England needs a revolution. They need to purge themselves of bad ideas, bad laws, bad practices. And bad people. It would be best if such could be done in a proper British way, but I have my doubts. And that means people will be hurt.

Ethnic cleansing - genocide - is the last step. It’s an aspect of civil war. It’s an idea of last desperate resort. I don’t know that England is at that utter last step yet; let them try razing first. Villagers with torches. Of course, if the people had the right and ability to defend themselves and their property, you might get the same effect as genocide if a large part of the rural crime is caused by the gypsies. Think of them as a street gang with RVs, like Bloods on Wheels. You want that in your neighborhood?

LyndonB wrote the following:

The UK finances are shocking and there are going to have to be some painful actions taken to get public spending under control. If nothing happens I think you will see a resurgence of the far right. Already in Italy they have started finger printing gypsies from Romania. Technically I suspect this contravenes EU law but the Italians have had enough and the people support them. I can see people in the UK being not that far behind. Already the gypsies in Northern Ireland have been moved on after the people took it into their own hands despite all the BBC hand wringing. Hopefully this will be a wake up call. If not then we could be back into a situation in Germany in the 1930’s which does not bode well.

And Lyndon wrote this also. My thanks to both. 

As for the genocide as much as I despise the criminals I would not countenance having them put in gas chambers. The answer in my view is to cut them off from the welfare teat and start actually doing something about the criminality. There is a difference here though. The majority of “travellers” in the past were relatively settled. They were low level criminals but didn’t push their luck. A lot of them worked on local farms doing seasonal work which they supplement with benefit fraud. Where you are seeing problems now is more likely due to Irish Travellers The Irish government has clamped down on welfare so the shed dragging bastards took off to somewhere easier (England) more recently there have been tens of thousands of “Roma” from Eastern Europe. The UK Travellers/Gypsies are descended from the same stock but have intermingled with the natives over the centuries. The East Europeans are much more inbred and generally have a swarthy dark appearance. They originally came from India centuries ago. Of course now we have open borders these people are coming into Britain by the coach load every day. As you will have seen from the situation in Northern Ireland they are not very popular. This is primarily because they are well known to be involved in pick pocketing, begging and “distraction burglary” Romanians and Bulgarians can’t work in Britain without a work permit but UK immigration is not allowed to stop them coming in as they are EU citizens. If you spot someone of swarthy appearance in your local High Street selling the Big Issue or begging then chances are they are gypsies.

As I say the real answer is to make welfare a lot harder to get and put time limits on it and make it unavailable for EU nationals but I don’t think anyone has the balls to do this. So what I predict will happen is more violence against Travellers and a drift to parties like the BNP who will do something about it. By that time though they will probably have even more problems with our friends from “the religion of peace” Happy days!


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