Friday - May 08, 2009

A BIT MORE ON THE SUBJECT OF TRAVELERS AND OTHERS. JUST INNOCENTS AFTER ALL.

Quite recently after another rant of mine on the subject, it was suggested that I read up a bit on the vermin. I’m not clear exactly why since I see the evidence of their behavior here in the UK, and am aware of their behavior elsewhere as well.  But no matter.  I did do a bit more reading and while I may have found some bits of interesting history, nothing changes the one absolute fact written in stone.  Which is that these folks will get away with whatever they’re doing because nobody is willing to take up arms, legal or otherwise, to stop them.  So I guess I shouldn’t complain now that I think about it.  Isn’t my country.  If the Brits are willing to allow the so called Travelers to do what the Germans failed at, invasion, then hey. It’s their country.
But it still rankles.  So then ... here’s a few items I collected in my reading. Of course there’s tons more but there’s a limit on space and you can research the topic as well as anyone else.

Misunderstandings of Gypsy culture created suspicions and fears, which in turn led to rampant speculations, stereotypes, and biased stories. Unfortunately, too many of these stereotypes and stories are still readily believed today.

Right. As an example.  Teaching thievery to their children.  That’s just a myth made up by “racists.”
Well, sorry Charlie.  60 Minutes devoted a bit of time to that “myth” and we were all given a view via hidden camera of their sweet little tykes in action.  Expert pickpockets by age 10.  But hey ... cameras lie all the time and maybe 60 Minutes had it in for this group.

Attempts to assimilate the Gypsies involved stealing their children and placing them with other families; giving them cattle and feed, expecting them to become farmers; outlawing their customs, language, and clothing as well as forcing them to attend school and church.

Ah .. right.  “Stealing children.” That could be true and I’d have no way of verifying. But it sounds right. By that I mean, it would appear to be true.  Speaking of which ...
My own grandmother was kidnapped by Roma Gypsies as a toddler and was rescued by her brothers.  One of those family stories that get passed down.

Alfred Dillmann establishes the Central Office for Fighting the Gypsy Nuisance in Munich. This office collected information and fingerprints of Gypsies. The year was 1899.

Interesting. Someone knew that early, recognized the “nuisance” (probably more like menace) and started the process of PROFILING.  Gasp!
There is a timeline of the persecution of Gypsies and especially their treatment by the Nazis.  The confusing thing about the entry for me is, all the people giving witness to what they experienced, are Jewish people.  ??  Not a group exactly known for traveler/gypsy behavior.  But it looked like the person who put it all together had a personal agenda and couldn’t find any of that group who left any record. Although I sure some must have spoken of it.

1926
In Bavaria, the Law for the Combating the Gypsies, Travelers, and Work-Shy sent Gypsies over 16 to workhouses for two years if they could not prove regular employment.

Well now.  I have been told in the past that there is a difference between the two but not exactly what that difference is.  I guess I will have to look it up and spend some time with research.  Now all I have to do is try and find the extra time.  Bottom line of course is ….
These people cause problems wherever they go.  ID’d as a nuisance over a hundred years ago. Difference between another age and ours is, that other generation knew how to face the problem. And dealt with it. 

Posted by peiper     on 05/08/2009 at 10:03 AM   
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