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calendar   Friday - February 24, 2012

Euphonious NASA Punk

Dragging up the Big 80s sound on a wet and chilly February day.

Surprise, it’s in German! Peter Schiller is still cranking away, playing the same song nearly 30 years on. This video is from 2010. Besides, you already know the words in English. It’s in your head, somewhere.
Friggin’ ScrewTube, won’t let any original studio vids play remotely, even though it gives you the embed code. Another part of Google’s growing digital monopoly.

The original English studio version is here.

h/t to sometimes reader Tara, who sends me links to the cutest baby pictures.


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A guy at a bar strikes up a conversation with a nice looking redhead ...

“Hey, I bet you’re Irish!”, he opens.

“That’s amazing”, she replies, “how could you tell?”

“Well, it’s the red hair, you know.”

“So true”, says Red, “All the Irish use Nice ‘n Easy Number 110.”



Posted by Drew458   United States  on 02/24/2012 at 02:25 PM   
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muslim judge in USA upholds sharia …

H/T Doc Jeff and thanks for the heads up to the Gates of Vienna link.

Doc sent along a few items and it is timely indeed, since I also received the latest Pat Condell video on islam as cultural terrorism.

There is not a thing for me to add to Condell. He’s always right on this subject.

The link Doc Jeff sent is quite interesting.  Seems a judge with a very American name who is muslim, has given the nod of approval to sharia law not so much in words as in actual deed.  There is a video at the Gates ov Vienna.
Take a look at this. A good look.

If you do, you’ll find out that laws against assault no longer apply to any offended Muslim who might physically attack you.

There’s a word for this, and I think we all know it: Sharia.

Muslim Admits to Attacking Atheist; Muslim Judge Dismisses Case

By Al Stefanelli

The Pennsylvania State Director of American Atheists, Inc., Mr. Ernest Perce V., was assaulted by a Muslim while participating in a Halloween parade. Along with a Zombie Pope, Ernest was costumed as Zombie Muhammad. The assault was caught on video, the Muslim man admitted to his crime and charges were filed in what should have been an open-and-shut case. That’s not what happened, though.

The defendant is an immigrant and claims he did not know his actions were illegal, or that it was legal in this country to represent Muhammad in any form. To add insult to injury, he also testified that his 9 year old son was present, and the man said he felt he needed to show his young son that he was willing to fight for his Prophet.

The case went to trial, and as circumstances would dictate, Judge Mark Martin is also a Muslim. What transpired next was surreal. The Judge not only ruled in favor of the defendant, but called Mr. Perce a name and told him that if he were in a Muslim country, he’d be put to death. Judge Martin’s comments included,

“Having had the benefit of having spent over 2 and a half years in predominantly Muslim countries I think I know a little bit about the faith of Islam. In fact I have a copy of the Koran here and I challenge you sir to show me where it says in the Koran that Mohammad arose and walked among the dead. I think you misinterpreted things. Before you start mocking someone else’s religion you may want to find out a little bit more about it makes you look like a dufus and Mr. (Defendant) is correct. In many Arabic speaking countries something like this is definitely against the law there. In their society in fact it can be punishable by death and it frequently is in their society.

Judge Martin then offered a lesson in Islam, stating,

“Islam is not just a religion, it’s their culture, their culture. It’s their very essence their very being. They pray five times a day towards Mecca to be a good Muslim, before you die you have to make a pilgrimage to Mecca unless you are otherwise told you can not because you are too ill too elderly, whatever but you must make the attempt. Their greetings wa-laikum as-Salâm (is answered by voice) may god be with you. Whenever, it’s very common when speaking to each other it’s very common for them to say uh this will happen it’s it they are so immersed in it.

Judge Martin further complicates the issue by not only abrogating the First Amendment, but completely misunderstanding it when he said,

“Then what you have done is you have completely trashed their essence, their being. They find it very very very offensive. I’m a Muslim, I find it offensive. But you have that right, but you’re way outside your boundaries or first amendment rights. This is what, and I said I spent about 7 and a half years living in other countries. when we go to other countries it’s not uncommon for people to refer to us as ugly Americans this is why we are referred to as ugly Americans, because we are so concerned about our own rights we don’t care about other people’s rights as long as we get our say but we don’t care about the other people’s say”



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when rape isn’t rape but only sexual assault

This is going to take a wee bit of doing.  I started out on Feb. 6.

I came across this story while searching for something totally unrelated. In fact, it’s been a few weeks since I discovered it, and I’ve been trying to get more info and figure out if a story that’s at least three yrs old is worth posting. I discovered while searching that while the story isn’t new, there’s still quite a bit of interest in it. 

Either rape was committed or it wasn’t.  Do we assume it didn’t happen because the guys were not found guilty of rape?  Wasn’t there any DNA testing, assuming the girl reported it quickly enough?  Why isn’t sexual assault, with the emphasis on the word ‘assault,’ seen as seriously as rape itself?  Surely the intent is there even if the act of rape did not happen.  But there’s some evidence it did, depending on who you read perhaps.  One thing seems clear though.
Sports are very important in the great state of Texas and especially in the town this sorry story takes place in. Because reading all I have read and there are million links it seems, rape takes a back seat to sports and a lesson for girls in Tx.  Don’t go accusing sports heroes of sexual assault.

The story in a nutshell is, a cheerleader refused to cheer on a player who she claimed raped her. She was 16 at the time.  So she was thrown off the cheer squad, of which she was captain.  Her alleged rapist admitted sexual assault but not rape, at least that was how it ended.  The girl’s parents now must pay out $45,000 as you will read.  The courts say her dad brought frivolous claims.
I suppose not many men get raped often enough to impress law courts.

Wouldn’t you think that the school authorities could have used some common sense and shown a bit of humanity (gasp) toward the young lady and allowed her to remain silent rather then cheer the sub human who assaulted her?  There were four, we are told but only one rape with the others holding and or groping.  Two are unnamed due to their tender age.

It was reported that she was seen kissing someone and that she’d been drinking.
If we choose to accept that she was a bit high, and I doubt it but then that’s just me, is it any less rape?  Is it okay to assault a woman if she’s drunk? 
Of course it isn’t.  Well, unless you’re a high profile athlete.  Then rape is downgraded to assault.  ????

This article is one of very many.  I first found the story while surfing and landed on a newspaper web site. The story wasn’t a long one but what I read lead to much more. In fact, I got in touch with the writer of the article which dated to last year, and have found more since he wrote of the episode.

The town the girl lives in has turned against her in the most frightful fashion. I could hardly believe what I was reading. She’s been verbally abused and those who have come forward to defend her, have themselves been abused. You can read all of it but I’m just venting here. And I repeat, there is evidence of rape.

In between reading the above and reading the local papers here in the UK, I came across a story of a 13 year old rape victim. Not a case of he said she said at all. In fact, her 14 year old rapist bastard was free after doing the same to another girl only recently.  But the girl was horribly bullied on line by people who for whatever reason, seemed to believe the damned rapist was the victim. Or they wanted to.  The girl’s mom had to drive her to school, and the car was pelted with,, I forget what it was. Threats were made to attack the home etc. Names called, you can imagine. Girl gets raped so she becomes the slut.
What a rotten totally empty headed and cruel place this advanced planet has become.

Oh, and in yet another rape case here in the UK, a rapist was finally deported back to the land of monkeys and apes, and it only took NINE YEARS! Ah. Progress.

Forced to Cheer for Her Attacker

A Texas girl accused her school’s star athlete of rape—and was kicked off her squad for refusing to cheer for him. Jessica Bennett reports from a town still divided three years later.

She was blonde and blue-eyed, captain of her high-school cheer squad, headstrong, but shy at times, too: she made a point not to call undue attention to herself. He was tall and strapping, an outgoing African-American kid, a church-going boy with the swagger of a star athlete. Their paths crossed mostly on the football field where she rooted for him every week, but that changed one night in October 2008 when, Hillaire says, Rakheem Bolton raped her.


The accusation dropped like a bomb in Silsbee, Texas. Rumors flew that Hillaire made up the story, ashamed of a consensual act because Rakheem was black. The footballer insisted the sex was consensual and was cleared of rape—only to plead guilty to simple assault. His lawyer suggested that Hillaire (whose name Newsweek and The Daily Beast has published with her parents’ permission) had been “asking for it.” Hillaire was kicked off the cheer squad for refusing to cheer for Rakheem on the field. A petition was started in her favor, and former NFL cheerleaders spoke out.

The small town became a cauldron of racial and sexual hysteria.

Three years on, the case remains unresolved, the wounds not yet cauterized, the bitterness still palpable. Yes, most of the protagonists have moved on: Rakheem to a local college, according to his lawyer; the school principal out of the district; Hillaire, now 19 and living at home, no longer speaking to the press. (She spoke only through her parents for this article.) Her mother, Christena Soignet, continues to work—albeit somewhat awkwardly, as a teacher in the school district that her family has now sued.

Craig Soignet has not moved on. Hillaire’s father has filed a seemingly endless raft of lawsuits, some of which have been dismissed as “frivilous” actions. He’s even appealed the matter to the U.S. Supreme Court. He seeks justice, vindication, peace of mind. But there will be no harmony in Silsbee—population 6,600—anytime soon.

It all began on a cool weekend night in October 2008, when, police documents state, 16-year-old Hillaire got drunk at a house party with some classmates—buzzed on Bud Light and vodka shots. According to police reports, Hillaire had kissed a different boy that night, and had been captured on a cellphone camera kissing another girl. Sometime in the early morning hours, records state, she ended up in a dark room with four boys: Bolton, a 17-year-old running back, his wide-receiver teammate, and two minors. The minors told police they fondled Hillaire while she kissed Bolton. They claim she helped them take off her clothes.

From outside the door, a friend heard Hillaire yell “stop!” and “no!” With the help of two others, he kicked in the locked door, finding Hillaire curled up under a pool table crying, naked from the waist down. Police documents state there was a condom wrapper on the floor, and a broken window: three of the four boys had fled, one leaving behind his pants and cellphone. “They raped me,” Hillaire cried, as the owner of the house—the mother of a student--called 911. Hillaire had never had sex before.

But the most humiliating moment for the teen came not on the night of the alleged assault, or even on her first day back to school, where shrieks of “slut!” ricocheted in the halls. It came four months later, as she stood on the sidelines of a tournament basketball game, clutching a pompon in each hand.

Rakheem Bolton, charged with sexual assault after the attack but no-billed by a grand jury, headed to the free-throw line—he was a two-sport athlete. The cheer squad began its usual chant: “Two, four, six-eight-ten!” they yelled, bouncing in maroon and white. “Come on, Rakheem, put it in!” Hillaire winced, and stepped quietly out of the cheer line. She couldn’t bring herself to cheer for the person she regarded as her attacker. “As a team, I cheered for them as a whole,” she said later. But “when he stepped up to the line, it didn’t feel right.”

At half time, her coach berated her, and a shouting match erupted. She was told she had to cheer “for everyone,” or go home. She chose the latter. The following Monday, she was kicked off the squad. An irate Craig Soignet appealed to the superintendent; 11 days later, she was reinstated. But a war had begun.

The boys, though, dispute that Hillaire went through anything. They say it was she who pursued Bolton; that he and his friends fled out the window because they were scared—“the only blacks,” as Bolton’s lawyer puts it, “in a house of all whites.” When Bolton returned that night to retrieve his clothes, police documents say, he shouted that, “I didn’t rape no white girl!”

Hillaire spent the early morning hours of that night at a clinic with her mother, having a rape kit administered. The nurse who treated Hillaire, Brenda Garrison, says she found trauma to the vaginal area and bruising to the girl’s hymen—all consistent, according to Silsbee Chief of Police David Allen, with sexual assault. Hillaire’s mother says a bruise in the shape of a handprint would later form on the girl’s upper thigh.

Even so, when Hillaire returned to school the following Tuesday—determined to keep her life as normal as possible—it was amid whispers that she “didn’t look like a girl who’d been raped.” “He could have any girl he wanted,” one commenter wrote of Bolton on a local blog. “He didn’t need to rape no white girl.” Craig Soignet says the school told Hillaire to “keep a low profile,” and she spent more time at home than usual. She went to see a rape counselor weekly.

Under Texas law, a minor can’t legally consent to sex—nor can a person who is intoxicated. But for a jury to believe that, says David Barlow, the special prosecutor on the case, a woman “practically has to be unconscious.” According to police reports, Hillaire was sober enough to recount to officers what she said had happened, and Rakheem was within two years of her age. He would later tell the local press the whole thing was a big “misunderstanding.” He has not spoken publicly since then, and did not respond to requests for comment.


The Cheerleader Rape Case Ends Horribly in Texas

A high school student who refused to cheer on her “rapist” has been ordered to pay $45,000 for filing a “frivolous” lawsuit. Where’s the justice in this?
By Cord Jefferson
Posted: 05/05/2011 02:54 PM EDT

The story begins in 2008, when a 16-year-old high school cheerleader called only “HS” was gang-raped at a party. Three young men ended up arrested for the assault, one of whom was Rakheem Bolton. Bolton ended up pleading guilty to misdemeanor assault, for which he was given two years probation and a fine, avoiding jail time.


Because the felony charges were dropped, Bolton was able to return to school and participate in all the regular school activities, including varsity basketball. As if the awkwardness of seeing her attacker at school everyday wasn’t bad enough, HS was a cheerleader, meaning that when Bolton played basketball, she was expected to cheer for him. One day, HS had had enough.

“I didn’t want to have to say his name and I didn’t want to cheer for him,” she told reporters in 2009. “I just didn’t want to encourage anything he was doing.”

To that end, HS refused to cheer for Bolton when he stepped up to take some free throws during a game in January 2009, four months after he had pleaded guilty to the attack. When she folded her arms and stood silently, however, her school’s superintendent, Richard Bain, ordered her outside and told her she had to cheer for Bolton. When she refused again, HS was kicked off the cheerleading squad.


Here’s something to munch on.

From another link.


The girl says she was pushed into a room and sexually assaulted while the door was locked.
“I believe they’re innocent,” Morrison told KFDM News, in reference to Bolton and Rountree. “I believe they’re not guilty of sexually assaulting the young lady. I don’t believe it occurred the way I heard it on the news.

Fine. Then why was she found cowering under a pool table half dressed while others heard her screams and had to break into the room.

Whereupon the three guys jumped out a window, and Bolton minus any cloths, swearing and threatening the home owner with violence if she didn’t toss his cloths out to him.

And will someone please tell me why sexual assault is treated so lightly? If it wasn’t rape but short of it, and rape wasn’t intended, and come on people.

Take a good look at this girl. Gonna tell me intent wasn’t there? Uh huh.  And another thing.

If Mr. Morrison believes those guys were innocent, well that is his right and opinion.  But I have thoughts and opinions and rights as well.  And here’s my raaaaacist thought on the subject.

I can not bring myself to believe that this beautiful young girl, tipsy or not tipsy, would have been tempted to kiss JUMBO LIPS. In his dreams maybe. But not hers. No way. 

Oh, and then of course the naacp had to get in on the act with a fat spokesman who could barely speak English.  Take a look at this.

Rakheem Bolton’s great uncle.  The video of the Reverend’s criticism of the indictment ends with appeals to God and Jesus.

I can’t embed the video but take a look at this and let me know if you can make out most if any of what he’s saying. I didn’t know they still spoke like this.
I mean, I thought since forced integration and all, they’d have learned a little more by now. Many have but apparently some were left in the trees.


And there is this edited bit which you can read in full

Did Hardin County District Attorney David Sheffield do a good job there?  The victim and her parents thought not.  Neither do I.  Neither should you.  The victim was told that preliminary results from the rape kit showed some DNA evidence that could inculpate the defendants.  Yet the victim kept hearing that due to case backlogs, the full rape kit analysis results wouldn’t be ready for four months, five months, one year – depends which report you read.  There is an appearance that the can kept getting kicked down the road for the date the victim was being given for when the rape kit results would be ready.  The victim now says she wants to study forensic science, motivated in part by the delay in the processing of her rape kit.
Does it sound right, that a community taking in $35K, $40K per home game football match can’t get a rape kit processed any faster than that?  I called the public information department of the Texas Department of Public Safety Crime Laboratory DNA Section.  I asked “Is it possible for somebody to get expedited rape kit results from the DNA Section of your Crime Lab?” They told me “Yes.  If a prosecutor or investigator says they have a case coming up and need results promptly, we can have the complete rape kit results for them within three weeks.”

Ignoring Sheffield’s warning that retaliation against the victim could result in felony prosecutions, the Silsbee schools community started retaliating against the victim for daring to make an accusation against a football hero.  If there was any effort to educate the school community about Retaliation, how serious it is, and how it would not be tolerated, there is no documentation of such an effort available online.  Online, in fact, you can find the most outrageous, vicious and ugly gossip, spread by members of the Silsbee community against the victim, seeking in every possible way to undermine her account of the crime, to drag her name through the mud.  Much of that gossip centered on how drunk she allegedly had been.  The vicious gossips should remember to send D.A. David Sheffield a tip at Christmasfor tacitly authorizing them to demean the victim on that basis.  At the school, fellow students would yell “Slut!” and “Bitch!” at her, but nobody would report them to school administration.  She was repeatedly harassed in the school cafeteria — but instead of disciplining those who were retaliating against her, the school administration told her to stay away from the cafeteria.  For good measure, they told her not to attend homecoming.  (She had apparently received threats saying that if she attended the homecoming, she would be shot with a gun).  This is to say, the school administration itself retaliated against her but was never held legally accountable, despite that previous statement from David Sheffield, the prize-winning District Attorney who didn’t bother to get an expedited rape kit result.  Various students claim Bolton threatened to shoot them.  The implication is that if they as witnesses said anything to incriminate him, they would be killed.  Silsbee schools never investigated these allegations.


Above and below I should warn bmews readers are from liberal blogs. But that doesn’t mean their arguments are not valid in this case.

Hillaire is no longer the carefree livewire she was once was. She is still harassed by some in town, including students who recently threw ice at her car as she dropped her younger sister off at school. She went from A/B grades to barely passing high school. She received counseling until her therapist passed away from breast cancer last year. In remembrance, she got a tattoo on her right hip of two ribbons–one for sexual-assault prevention and the other for breast-cancer awareness–along with a Bible quotation she heard from her therapist: “Perfect love casts out fear.”
“She’s broken,” says her father.  “I think she’s still fighting on some levels, but I don’t think she has the determination that she used to have. Just don’t see that fire, that ambition in her anymore.”
Craig lost his refinery job last year and spends his time building the family business and working on the case. Larry Watts is working pro bono on the case because Craig can no longer able to afford legal fees. Nonetheless, Craig insists that the case “hasn’t destroyed our business, It hasn’t destroyed the family. We’ve gotten closer as a family.”
The family is divided about whether to leave Silsbee, but, despite everything, Craig and Hillaire both want to stay.

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calendar   Thursday - February 23, 2012

Death In Languedoc

Bugger This

Peiper sent me a couple links to sites about the Cathars. Fascinating stuff. History and religion, not conspiracy theories. War and torture, but underneath it all a completely different version of Christianity. I had read a bit about them decades ago, but only lightly. The internet has tons of information on them now.

While the ancient Egyptians had more gods than you can shake a stick at, their theological world view was dualistic. As above, so below. Life on earth is a mirror of life in heaven. The gods act like people, and the people sometimes have god-like qualities. Along with this duality was a common understanding of what living a proper life was all about; this was the concept of Ma’at. Which was also a god, because the ancient Egyptians made gods out of everything. Perhaps they did so because they realized that some things were inherently holy, or at least sacrosanct. But if you lived a proper life, once you were dead you could meet the gatekeeper of the underworld and argue the defense for your soul during its weighing. “I have not murdered, I have not stolen, I have not lusted after my brother’s wife. I have honored the gods. I have not lied to the magistrates about my brother. I cared for my parents and treated them with respect.” and so forth. If that sounds like the Ten Commandments to you, it ought to because it pretty much is. Only a thousand years or so older. Every new religion that comes along borrows something from the dominant religions of its time. Sometimes lots of borrowing. The Egyptians had the ideas of the seasonally dying god, the virgin birth, the mother goddess, resurrection, heaven, hell, and the devil (the bad god or the anti-god, aka Seth) all figured out too. But Egypt didn’t immediately cease to exist once it became a satrapy of Rome. Their religions continued for some time, and their language survived until the islamic onslaught; the liturgical Coptic spoken today is a direct descendant of pharaonic Egyptian, and was a lingua franca of Egypt until about 1700. The Egyptian pantheon may have received a new coat of Roman paint, but it still existed when the early Christians showed up, and the faiths probably blended: Horus became St. George, time marched on, and a few core concepts may have carried down through the ages.

Very early Christianity flourished in post-pharaonic Egypt. There was a gnostic sect, and either alongside them or descended from them there was the Coptic sect, which still exists today and is currently being persecuted by those ever-tolerant muslims.

Enter the Cathars onto the stage of history. The Cathars were a group of people without any real national identity. They wandered around the shores of the Mediterranean, moving through Greece and the Balkan lands and eventually winding up in the area we now think of as southern France, down near the Spanish border. Except in the 900s-1200s it wasn’t France then, nor really Spain (actually Aragon) either. I have not studied their faith nor their history, so I can’t say if the Cathars were an offshoot of the Bogomils, the Paulicians, or descended from the Manichaean syncretic faith, both of which preceded it and were dualistic in nature. The point is that the Cathars felt themselves to be Christians, as did the Bogomils. These were all gnostic dualistic faiths; while the Church of Rome was just getting to it’s feet, dualism (Christian or otherwise) was a common belief system all around the Mediterranean Sea and into the lands to the East. Gnostic faiths like Pelagianism existed all over Europe, although not all were dualistic. But like the followers of Pelagius, they were all branded as heresy.

The land around that Sea was the “known world” of the west of the time. This was all during the time of the Byzantine Empire, when the focus of the western world was far more to the east than it was during earlier Roman times or later Medieval times. Not that those Medieval times were as euro-centric as we’ve lead ourselves to believe; the Byzantine Empire, centered in Constantinople (modern Istanbul) survived until 1453, and had been the center of Christianity from the fall of Rome until the later Crusades. When the muzzies sacked the city, took over, and closed the trade routes, it gave rise to old Chris Columbus in 1492 ... and that was the end of the Middle Ages. But the West has forgotten the Byzantines. 1000 years of history wiped off the slate; we think “History. Right. Fertile Crescent, ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome, the Dark Ages, then the Middle Ages, lost knowledge brought back from the Crusades, the Renaissance, Reformation, Age of Enlightenment, Industrial Revolution, Modern Times” and forget entirely about the major creche of Western culture. The only Dark Ages were in the forests of western and northern Europe, and it was that corner of the world where the Roman Church made inroads. And one of the best ways of making inroads is to eliminate the competition, by propaganda, war, or both.

The Cathar civilization was one of high learning, productive work, religious tolerance, and a simple lifestyle. “Catharism held that the universe was a battleground between good, which was spirit, and evil, which was matter. Human beings were believed to be spirits [angels] trapped in physical [evil, unclean] bodies. The leaders of the religion, the perfects, lived with great austerity, remaining chaste and avoiding all foods that came from sexual union [ie vegetarians].” Like the old Egyptian concept of ma’at, they had a sophisticated, all encompassing, and nearly beyond understanding way of being called paratge, which filtered down to the rest of Europe as what we think of today as chivalry. They actually had no name for themselves, calling themselves merely “Good Christians”. The word Cathar comes from the Greek katharos and means pure.They were just people trying to live a proper life as they saw it. It was other people who called them Cathars, or Albigenseans because the city of Albi was one of their centers, along with the city of Toulouse. But their beliefs were more than just antithetical to the Catholic faith; they were heretical. And thus began the Albigensian Crusade.

The Albigensian Crusade was immensely popular in northern France because it gave pious warriors an opportunity to win a Crusade indulgence without traveling far from home or serving more than 40 days. During the first season the Crusaders captured Béziers in the heart of Cathar territory and—following the instructions of the papal legate who allegedly said, “Kill them all. God will know his own,” when asked how the Crusaders should distinguish the heretics from true Christians—massacred almost the entire population of the city. With the exception of Carcassonne, which held out for a few months, much of the territory of the Albigeois surrendered to the Crusaders.

So while the English were figuring out how to write the Magna Carta and limit the power of kings, the French went on a killing spree and had nearly a commuter war that they could wrap in shrouds of holiness. And kill they did, not just defeating the Cathars but nearly eliminating all of them in a genocidal orgy of war and torture. The very first Inquisition was formed by the Dominicans to get the Cathars, and it was very effective. People were burned at the stake left and right. Hundreds of thousands of people were put to the sword, and by 1215 or so the Cathars nearly eliminated. What was once the most fertile and productive corner of Europe was laid to waste, and centuries later is still one of its poorest corners. By 1244 the fighting was all but over, but it took another century of Inquisition and repression to completely eradicate the faith.

A few remarkable castles remain in the south of France, now popular with tourists. A few of their tenets may have made their way into Protestant philosophy; it isn’t that great a theological leap from the Cathar belief of “angels in devil’s bodies” to the “man is inherently sinful” view of John Calvin. Their scriptures only exist as fragments, but what is left is markedly different than what we call the bible today, and actually closer to ancient Greek manuscripts and certain Dead Sea scrolls. It really makes me wonder what was lost, and just how far the faith we call Christianity has been bent by politics and revisionism over the centuries.

March 16th 2012 will be the 768th anniversary of the collapse of Montségur, a defensive Cathar castle atop a steep narrow mountain. When the fortress surrendered the inhabitants were given the choice of renouncing their faith or suffering the consequences. They kept their beliefs. 200 people were burned alive in one of the largest and earliest auto de fes in European history. The heavy metal band Iron Maiden made a song out of it in 2003, but the burning, like the Cathars themselves, has largely been forgotten by history.

Fascinating stuff. You could study this for a lifetime.

Oh, and the “bugger this”? Part of the Catholic propaganda against the Cathars was that they were sodomites (rather projectionist maybe?). The Cathars were believed to have come from Bulgaria, which is Bougre in French. So calling someone a Bulgarian became a polite way of saying that they favored a sexual union historically associated with homosexuality. Now give bougre to the English, who can’t pronounce anything foreign, and you get bugger. There was also a Dominican Inquisitor known as Robert le Bougre (Buggery Bob) “the hammer of heretics” who was a renounced Cathar, and like many recent converts, was rather too enthusiastic ... and has come down through history as one of the cruelest and most sadistic torturers of all time.

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teen drug gang shoot out with happy end. two of the vermin are graveyard dead.

There is only one reason for my post of this otherwise boring but still happy news story.

The happy part should be obvious but the reason for the post is that:

I was in this town many, many, many years ago.  And many,many years ago there weren’t any of these vermin, not even one, infesting this place.

Sad, gone are the good days never to return. There were warnings, but no one to listen who could do anything. Damn!  Now we must all contend with names like, Fuad Awale, Sharmake Abdulkadir, Yayar Harun, Abdi Farah, Amin Ahmed Ismail, among a host of other alphabet words few can pronounce and none can spell.

“Abba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba”
Said the monkey to the chimp.
“Abba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba”
Said the chimpee to the monk.
All night long they chattered away.
All day long they were happy and gay,
Swinging and swaying in a honky, tonky way.

“Abba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba dabba”
Said the chimp, “I love but you.”
Abba dabba dabba in monkey talk means
“Chimp, I love you too.”
Then the ol’ baboon, one night in June,
Married them and very soon,
They sailed away on an abba dabba honeymoon.

And it came that the happy couple settled in Britain where they lived happily ever after (baring being raped,stabbed or shot by their own kind) on benefits in between drug deals.

Teenagers shot dead in Milton Keynes ‘drug turf’ dispute

Mohammed Abdi Farah and Amin Ahmed Ismail were shot in an alleyway in Fishermead.  Two teenagers were shot dead in a drugs “turf war” in Buckinghamshire, a court has heard.

Mohammed Abdi Farah, 19, and Amin Ahmed Ismail, 18, were both shot in the head in Milton Keyes on 26 May last year.

St Albans Crown Court was told the men were killed after one of them handed out a drug dealer’s cannabis for free.

Yahya Harun, 21, and Sharmake Abdulkadir, 21, both of Milton Keynes and Fuad Awale, 24, of no fixed address, deny a charge of murder.

Mr Abdulkadir, of The Fleet, Springfield, has also denied possessing of a firearm with intent to endanger life.

The court heard Mr Farah, from Birmingham, and Mr Ismail, from Ealing, London, who were of Somali origin, were shot in an alleyway on the Fishermead Estate just after 22:00 GMT on 26 May 2011.

Ben Gumpert, prosecuting, said a witness would tell the jury Mr Farah had been handing out free cannabis on the Saturday before he died.

It is alleged the drugs came from Mr Awale’s stock.

“One of the victims had been selling drugs on the day of the shootings,” Mr Gumpert said.

“A dispute over “drug turf”, where individuals establish the right, if that is the word, to sell drugs....seems the likely motive for the killing.”

The court was told the defendants were seen at the entrance to the alley, minutes before the killings.

The men were seen arguing with the two victims moments before two shots were heard, Mr Gumpert said.

They were then seen gathered in a circle fiddling with what Mr Gumpert said could only have been a gun before Mr Awale returned to the alley and shot Mr Amin again.

Mr Farah was pronounced dead at the scene. Mr Amin was taken to hospital where he was pronounced dead after attempts to save his life failed.

“Whether it was Fuad Awale, Sharmake Abdulkadir, Yayar Harun or another of the group of five who actually fire the shots which killed the two victims is not of the first importance.” Mr Gumpert added.

“The prosecution case is that all three defendants were part of a joint enterprise.”

Mr Gumpert said for “different reasons” the other two in the group are not on trial.


And the reason I didn’t list this post under the category of crime, is because I fail to see any crime when these types kill each other. It’s more a weeding I should think.  It would only be criminal should an innocent non gang and law abiding person be injured or killed.  Otherwise, it’s nature’s law with regard to insects killing other insects. In fact, vicious criminals should be given an arena and armed and allowed to fight it out there. 
And the police must stop this nonsense of calling any of them mister.


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calendar   Wednesday - February 22, 2012

a cartoon from the netherlands



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Can torture be morally right?  Don’t really care. Anyone else or am I the lone ranger?

I have run somewhat out of time today. Too much more to do at the house with things that should have been taken care of long ago. My bad I guess.

Started yesterday and made great headway.  Plan now is to keep up with things better then I have in the past. And I think I can do it. Just a matter of not being so damn lazy about some things need doing.  And one thing needs doing is sharing this article.
I’m even late posting it now.

Can torture be morally right?


yes and anyway, who cares that counts? See the entire article before answering that.

Both sides were defiant and unrepentant. When President George W. Bush was asked for permission to ‘waterboard’ the Al Qaeda terrorist and 9/11 mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, to obtain vital information, his thoughts turned not only to the thousands who died in the Twin Towers but also to Daniel Pearl, the kidnapped American journalist whose head Khalid admitted hacking off with his own hand.

‘Damn right! Get on with it!’ Bush said. Writing later about his duty to protect the United States from another terror attack, he said: ‘And I’d do it again.’

Meanwhile, behind bars in Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. detention centre for terror suspects, the fanatical (and egotistical) Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was equally impenitent.

He was happy to admit his part as ‘principal planner’ of 9/11 and to link his name to almost every terrorist outrage in recent years, as if trying to prove himself a bigger threat than his nominal chief, Osama Bin Laden.

And would the self-confessed killer do it all again, if given the chance? The answer was an unqualified ‘yes’ — as part of his jihad (‘holy war’) against America and all the infidel nation stood for.

Unlike Bush, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed wallowed in his brutality. When Daniel Pearl was killed, the process of cutting off his head with a knife was halted after it had begun because the video camera (recording the slaughter for dissemination round the world) wasn’t working.

Once it was fixed, the gruesome task resumed. Who knows what pain the American suffered before he died, but waterboarding (a simulation of drowning that produces panic and pain) must have been almost benign by comparison.

Here, in a nutshell, is the crucial battleground of the 21st century. How far can a nation stretch its own hard-won traditions of law and justice in order to combat terrorism that knows no boundaries, either geographical or ethical, in its hate-driven crusade to wipe its supposed enemies off the face of the earth?

This uncomfortable moral dilemma — perhaps the most pressing of our troubled times — is tackled in a new book by the British writer and journalist William Shawcross.

In Bush’s words, ‘they represent no nation, defend no territory, and wear no uniform. They do not mass armies on borders, or flotillas of warships on the high seas.
‘They operate in the shadows of society; they send small teams of operatives to infiltrate free nations; they live quietly among their victims; they conspire in secret; and then they strike without warning.’
Despite this threat, the West is emphatically not entitled to respond in kind. The sort of disregard for human life that characterised U.S. actions in Vietnam cannot be repeated. But, if the Al Qaeda threat is to be successfully countered, the gloves have to be eased off a little.

BULLSHIT!!!  Ease off? Ease?  No freekin way.  Mass kill the bastards the same way you’d spray a wasp’s nest or a roach infestation.

It’s a good article and a book review and thought provoking.  I suppose my problem is a lack of patience.  I just want us to bomb where they live and stuff collateral damage.  I don’t really care. 



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The Land of Tinfoil

I got caught up in one of Rodger’s stories yesterday, the one about the $6 trillion in “fake” bearer bonds being seized by the Italian police ...

Italian prosecutors say they have broken up an organised crime ring that was hiding trillions of dollars of fake US bonds.

The bonds, with a face value of $6tn, were found in three metal boxes in a warehouse in the Swiss city of Zurich.

Italian authorities have arrested eight people and are investigating them for fraud and other crimes.

Prosecutors are not sure what the gang was planning, but think they intended to sell the counterfeit bonds.

Investigators, based in Potenza in southern Italy, say the fraud posed “severe threats” to international financial security.

The notes, which were dated 1934, were found in three safety deposit boxes in Zurich after a year-long joint investigation by Swiss and Italian authorities known as “Operation Vulcanica”. Eight people have been arrested.
The eight people under arrest are accused of counterfeiting bonds, as well as credit card forgery and usury across several Italian regions, including Lombardy in the north of the country.

Prosecutors refused to say anything more. But the Italian news agency ANSA, citing unidentified investigative sources, said phone taps indicated that there had been some interest from the suspects in acquiring plutonium from unidentified Nigerians.

Six trillion dollars? Plutonium from Nigeria? Gold bearer bonds from 1934? Nor is this the only recent bond bust. $20 billion in similar bonds were recently captured in Milan, and another $134 billion was grabbed in 2009, another huge stash in 2007, ...

An unusual and intriguing part of the story is that the bonds seem to have been found in old metal boxes marked “Chicago Federal Reserve System” “Mother Box” “Treaty of Versailles”. Ain’t that the damnedest thing?


I wanted to know more, so after I followed his links I Googled up the story ... and instantly found as many pages claiming that these were real as I found news stories saying that they were false. I decided to look closer, took the first step, ... and fell down the rabbit hole into the magical world of tinfoil hat land.

Horry Clappo! The more I looked, the wilder it got. Could there be any truth here? Could this story be a peak into the hidden powers behind the thrones, some machination of the One World Order? And I kept digging and digging and reading until I thought my head was going to explode. Let’s see if I can sum it all up in a short paragraph or two. So suspend your disbelief, set your Gullibility Meter to 11, and clap your hands harder than you ever clapped for Tinkerbell to live, that you believe that our Secret Masters are real.

There is far more gold in the world than The Powers That Be want you to know about. If you Google up that question, you get an answer that there is X million tons of the stuff, enough to make one solid brick about the size of a house. Wrong! Try 100 times that much, perhaps 1000. 100,000. (this is entirely possible, because no person or nation is willing to say “We’ve got this much, come look!") International trade has existed since caveman days. We know this is true; rare archaeological oddities have turned up many times that show it may even have been trans-Atlantic. The trade routes to the Far East have existed longer than recorded history. The Silk Road starts in China and Japan, but in far antiquity the western ends went to Imperial Rome, Pharaoh’s doorstep, and perhaps the Meso-American civilizations around the Gulf of Mexico. All those trade goods going west for thousands of years, but going east, the payment has always been gold. Just gold. Read your Bible. Read your history. There was a LOT of gold kicking around back then. Taels worth. Lakhs worth. Millions of Fingers worth; the stories are so old that the units of measurement are almost lost to history. And over time, vast hordes of it wound up in China, where it just sat, forever. Ok, some massive amounts accumulated in India too, and to this day unbelievable hordes come to light once in a great while, worth billions.

While Europe was involved in a state of perpetual war for 3 or 4 thousand years, while dynasties came and went in India with all the killing, looting, and burning, while the ahistoric civilizations in Africa rose and fell, nobody ever fully conquered China. Oh sure, the Mongols. The Horde. But while they may have won the wars, they didn’t take the spoils and leave. No, they settled in, and stayed in China. Along with all that gold.

Fast forward through history to the 1930s. A weakened China, steeped in its own civil war, is invaded by Imperial Japan. (if you include all the players, which is only fair, World War II started long before old Adolph visited Poland. Japan invaded China in 1931, and Italy invaded Ethiopia in 1935. The Spanish Civil War 1936-39 is seen as a training program for the Nazi war machine, but is otherwise separate from the later global conflict.) Ok, Japan is kicking Moo Shu Pork Butt in China, and it looks like they might win. Time to move the gold. Where to send it? Fort Knox. Or the Old Sun Life Building. Which they did. 3, 4, or 7 battleships full. Or destroyers full, depending on which version of the story you read. A bunch of big ships, full of gold. China, or at least the Koumintang Party which was nominally in charge, was our ally back then. Remember the Flying Tigers and the movie Sand Pebbles?

Nations moving their bullion to some other safe country isn’t conjecture. This was done in WWI, and done again in WWII. Heck, if you’re over 45 you probably read Snow Treasure as a kid where the children snuck the gold past the Nazis on sleds. Smuggling is older than time too.

So the USA, still fat with Europe’s bullion from WWI (thanks Peiper, I’m rereading The Lords of Finance again, and I’m at the point the Dawes Plan is going into effect.) starts getting gold sent to it for safekeeping from all corners of the globe, and part of that is a horde beyond description from China. The gold of the world, all in the USA. And what did China get for this, as proof of their deposit? Bonds. Really huge bonds, with denominations in the millions and billions. Gold bonds. Sealed in metal Treasury Department boxes, with an agreement that they wouldn’t be opened for 30-60 years. Boxes and bonds just like the ones that came to light in this news story. At the time China didn’t have much in the way of official government, being in another one of their warlord periods. Most of the gold was in private hands, so these bonds were issued to people, not to the nation. Those people, the very small group of massively wealthy Chinese, would later be known by the group name called the Dragon Family.

This “fake bonds” story is just the latest chapter in the “China’s Black Gold” legend, which has been floating around for some time now. Add to the gold sent to us the gold stolen from China by Imperial Japan, which the US seized at the end of the war. Now put in the twist that, under FDR - perhaps the dirtiest dealing politician that ever was - the USA had no intention of ever giving any of it back. That they played the Chinese and issued real bonds in real boxes, but made them both with deliberate errors so that they would be dismissed as fakes when anyone tried to redeem them a generation or two later on. And that’s exactly what we have here in this news story. We ripped off China for dozens of trillions, the real bonds were declared fraudulent in court a few years ago, and the Dragon Family has been trying to flog them anywhere in the world ever since.

The problem is that what Romney, Trump and other China trade policy critics miss is that the trade deficit is not a result of a poorly thought out U.S. trade policy. In fact the U.S. trade policy with China has been meticulously thought out. There is growing evidence that it is payback for the CIA’s decades long covert use of China’s “black gold” - gold that does not appear on any international gold registry. China’s “black gold” has been hidden for over six decades in order to fund a globally coordinated set of covert projects hidden from public view by the CIA and a consortium of national intelligence organizations and transnational corporations - a Global Manhattan Project.

Two very recent court cases and a June 2009 incident on the Italian/Swiss border involving high denomination 1934 Federal Reserve notes reveal a remarkable historical fact. During the Second World War era, vast quantities of Chinese gold reserves were either looted and hidden by the Japanese Imperial Army in the Philippines, or transferred by the Chinese Nationalist government to international safe havens.

The biggest beneficiary of this vast historical movement of “black” gold was the U.S. government which arranged for a significant portion of China’s “black” gold to be transferred into the US. Federal Reserve system, and Federal Reserve bonds and/or notes issued in return. The holders of these high denomination Federal Reserve bearer bonds/notes - often the descendents of Chinese/Asian royal families - could only redeem these bonds after lengthy periods of time, e.g., five decades. As a safeguard to ensure the “black gold” would not become publicly tradable, the Federal notes/bonds were printed with spelling errors and other abnormalities that would make them appear fraudulent. Attempts to redeem these bearer bonds have been unsuccessful.

This has led to court cases and financial incidents that have drawn media attention over the high denomination bonds in dispute and their validity. Most public media attention wrongly concludes that these bonds are fraudulent as outlined in a recent Bloomberg article focusing on bonds found in the Philippines.
Two recent court cases citing meticulous fact checking and documentation of these high denomination 1934 bonds, suggest otherwise.

To calculate the total amount of gold ‘leased’ by China’s nationalist government to the Federal Reserve we can use the 1938 historic figure for the price of gold which was $34.87 per troy oz. $124.5 billion converts into an approximate total of 3.6 billion troy oz or 110 thousand metric tons. Given that the world’s total gold reserves is officially only 165 thousand tons, this is a staggering amount of gold that was secretly leased from China’s nationalist government.

Using the current spot price of gold, nearly $1700 per troy oz, the value of Chinese gold in possession of the Federal Reserve has a price of six trillion dollars!

Six trillion dollars. The very same amount in the news story from Italy. The above quote is from a web page that was written before the bonds were seized. Spooky!!


Purposeful mistake: a 52 star American flag embossed

on one of the Mother Boxes from 1934. Proof it’s a fake!!

So where is all the gold? Nobody knows. Rumor is that the court case referred to above was decided in America’s favor September 10, 2001. And that the gold had been stored in massive vaults deep underneath World Trade Center Building 7. But when the workers dug down through all the rubble, those vaults were found to be empty.

Actually, somebody does now. The secret cabal that runs the world - bankers and evil Joooos of course, of which the United States is their wholly owned corporation (well, them and the British Empire) - control the courts so they knew ahead of time how the decision would come down, and what would happen - 9/11 - because of it, so they spirited the gold out ahead of time. I’m only touching the tip of the iceberg here. The full story is long and convoluted and I haven’t read it all. I’m sure the Knights Templar and the Illuminati of Bavaria come into it somewhere. Certainly the Rothschilds do, and JP Morgan, and the Nazis. Even Saddam Hussein has a part: do you remember how US soldiers found/captured trucks full of gold bars in Iraq in the early days of Gulf War 2? It happened; Google it. Whatever became of that gold? Whatever became of that mountain full of Nazi gold the US Army found at the end of WWII? It’s all connected, in a story that spans the globe and nearly all of human history. And all hidden from sight and actively denied. Just like the Bilderberg Group and their Nazi roots. Just like these bonds. Down the rabbit hole.

Into the land of tinfoil.


Of course it’s fake! Right??

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it suggested now that cross dressing during “diversity week” may be offensive to some.

Woo-hoo. What’s this about?

Diversity Week?  The university has a Diversity Week?  Some parents no doubt proud and happy to pay the fees that will promote and build the future PC mobs who will themselves (many will) become teachers.  And so indoctrinate as they’ve been. 

I am deadly serious. Before I read this article. you wouldn’t have seen me dressed ‘in drag’ at a fancy dress party simply because I wouldn’t have felt ‘comfortable’ let’s say.But, because some beardy-sandal wearing,yoghurt knitting, boiled wooly jumpered. limp wristed ‘guild’ decide it’s wrong, I have a good mind to travel down to Exeter and join in the fun.
- Things ‘aint what they used to be, Birmingham, 22/2/2012 12:04

Apparently some students at a university celebrating “diversity week” are asked not to do the usual cross dress as fun thing, cos for a straight to do that is as offensive to transgenders as putting on black face it to negros.
Leave it to the libtard left to always be on the lookout for some bit of offense aimed at some group somewhere.
The article amused me because it’s so clearly stupid.  And most cringe worthy of all is the very idea of a diversity week.  And these are, I want you to know, the future brainwashed and conditioned leaders and MPs that will rule even more.  What a miserable thought. But true.

Male students at top university banned from dressing as girls on pub crawls ‘because it is as offensive as blacking-up’


Students at one of Britain’s top universities have been told not to ‘cross dress’ or ‘black up’ to avoid mocking other minority groups.

The Students’ Guild at Exeter University in Devon has issued a warning not to offend other undergraduates during its diversity week.

In a statement yesterday, the student body said: ‘The Guild is aware that there are several trans-identified students at Exeter and more who express their identity as gender-queer.

‘To parody this appearance is crass and offensive on the same level as ethnicity.’

The university’s diversity week runs from February 19 to 25 and is held to ‘celebrate diversity and our cultural differences’, according to the Guild.

It says Exeter has more than 4,000 international students from 130 countries.

The statement added: ‘While “blacking up” in various guises is not unlawful… by parodying an appearance you are taking on the public performance of a group of persons in a stereotypical or (sometimes) mocking way.

‘The Guild does not act in disciplinary fashion against members of the student body for performances of this nature.

‘But we do express disapproval of unthinking and insulting appearances against minority student groups in particular.

‘Before you dress up in this fashion we would ask that you reconsider your actions and act in a culturally sensitive way so as not to give offence.

‘The Guild is not demanding that all such performances stop.

‘We are merely asking for your consideration in making sure that your own individual behaviour is not harming, insulting or mocking another student.’


Truth to tell, I never thought that black face in the entertainment world, and now I am thinking Minstrels, Eddie Cantor, Al Jolson etc., were ever intended to be mocking or infer derision of any sort.  If that’s how blacks see it, they are wrong. Not saying it doesn’t bother them and perhaps they do find black-face offensive. 


Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 02/22/2012 at 08:03 AM   
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no words needed when the picture tells the story.

I think this is a case of:  One picture is worth whatever New Jersey Yankee says it is.

Busted! Finnish president’s husband caught admiring more than just the food at royal dinner


Royal dinners can be tiresome occasions and sometimes the speeches are just not enough to hold your attention. 

Pentti Arajarvi, the husband of the Finnish president Tarja Halonen, certainly thought so when he attended a state dinner in Copenhagen.

To pass the time the 63-year-old appeared to turn his attention to his neighbour’s chest - who just happened to be Denmark’s Princess Mary who was sat next to him.



Am I mistaken or has he fallen asleep?  If not, then the real boob is he for being so obvious.


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man drowns in 3ft of water,confusion if alive or already dead so evry1 just stands & looks

Tempted to say there are no words but actually, there are. Lots of them. Unfortunately .... I can’t think of any.  This isn’t the first time something like this has happened.  This place has gone completely bonkers.

There are a number of photos at the link.  Looks more pond then lake. Notice the rescue (?) couple in one of the shots. No more then waist deep.

The story does get a bit confusing because the headline makes it appear that rescue ppl assumed he was still alive.  But one who was there seems to be under the impression that it wasn’t rescue but a body retrieval call that went out. ???  So was he already dead and how misleading is the headline?  Don’t know.
Could it be there wasn’t anyone at the exact time needed, to wade out there and grab him?

Take a look.

Fire chief ordered rescuers not to save drowning man in 3ft shallow lake as the water was more than ankle deep

Firemen refused to wade in due to health and safety rules
Drowning Simon Burgess, 41, was just 20ft away from firefighters but inquest hears they refused to save him
Police officer who went in to water was ordered back


A charity worker drowned in a 3ft deep lake when a policeman and a paramedic were ordered not to try to rescue him.

Simon Burgess, 41, was left to float face down as emergency crews watched.

Health and safety rules stopped them going more than ankle deep into the lake, an inquest was told yesterday.

Simon Burgess, 41, toppled into a three foot deep lake in Gosport, Hampshire. He is thought to have suffered an epileptic fit at around the time he fell into the water. The tragic victim is pictured here feeding swans months before he died.

According to a doctor, Mr Burgess’s life could have been saved had he been removed from the water quickly.

The constable and the ambulance worker who volunteered to jump into the lake were given strict orders not to do so by fire station watch manager Tony Nicholls.

PC Tony Jones arrived at the scene on foot shortly after Mr Burgess fell into the water while feeding swans.

He told the inquest: ‘When I spoke to witnesses and found out the body hadn’t been there long I told my sergeant I was willing to go into the water.

‘He authorised me to do so and I took off my body armour but Mr Nicholls advised me strongly not to go in.

‘I said I would go in anyway and asked if I could borrow his life jacket but he said “No”, but I was going to do it regardless. It didn’t sit right with me that no one was going to get the body or assist the person in the water.

‘The control room was informed I was going in and they sent a message that under no circumstances could I go in the water.’

Paramedic Robert Wallace told the hearing he also offered to attempt to retrieve the body from the water at Walpole Park in Gosport, Hampshire.

‘I’m trained to swim in currents you go white water rafting in, but Mr Nicholls told me he didn’t want my help,’ he said.

Mr Nicholls, who is based at Gosport fire station, told the inquest that he understood the body had been in the water for five to ten minutes.

‘There were no obvious signs of life so from that I made an assessment it was a body retrieval and not a rescue,’ he said.

‘The officers were trained to go into ankle deep water, which is level one, so we waited for level two officers, who can go into chest high.

‘One of the police officers told me he would like to go in the water and I advised him in the strongest terms not to. A paramedic told me he was level two water trained, but when I asked him if he had protective equipment he said “No”, so that was the end of that.

A lot to see and more to read, HERE AT THE SOURCE


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calendar   Tuesday - February 21, 2012

upholding the law even if it means grassing the little stuff

If you witness an accident that involved a hit and run driver, you would perhaps make note of a lic. if readable or a description of the car and report it to the police.  I think.
And wouldn’t any of us be pleased to discover the SOB who put a dent in our car in a parking lot or who tore off a wing mirror, and left no note of apology and a contact number.
In other words, I don’t think any of us would be shamed at the thought of one of us calling the police to report some things, especially hit and runs. 

But how about a different scenario?  It involves a car, a driver, a seat belt.  Unbuckled.
Should you, in the spirit of public mindedness, call the cops?  After all, the law is the law and not wearing a seat belt clearly breaks the law.

Would this be one of the rare instances when the term, you can’t make it up, might apply?
Or would think, oh yeah.  That’s no surprise these days. I could envision some self appointed defender of the public reporting someone not wearing a seatbelt.  Cos that is exactly what happened recently.

A fellow who also happens to be a football manager, which has nothing to do with being reported, was grassed not by one, but several people who complained to the Dorset Police.

The 64 year old miscreant got a letter of warning from the police, who say that, had he been seen by an officer, “the offence would have been punished by a £60 ($94.84) on the-spot fine.”

Howz them apples grab ya bmews?


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calendar   Monday - February 20, 2012

not a good back day for me

Ow. Back hurts today. I think I need a new mattress. I tried slipping some cardboard and a bit of plywood under it the other day to take out some sag, but it didn’t seem to do any good. I’m thinking that 14 years isn’t such great longevity for one of these, but the How To Buy A Mattress help pages say 8-10 years is all you should really expect from one.

So not much from me today. I was going to write on how ... big whup, the slave labor in China that makes your iPad is getting a 25 percent raise, bringing their pay up to a whole $1.40 an hour when you figure in their 6 day, 72 hour work week, but I just can’t muster the gumption. No kidding. That’s why China is sucking up the jobs from the whole rest of the world. They have an infinite population under the thumb of a violent autocratic government, and the peasants will work like whipped dogs for a bowl of rice and a chance to not be shot today. It’s no wonder they commit suicide almost as fast as lemmings. So right on, planet, let’s send them all our money and jobs and screw our own economies right in to the ground. Meanwhile, Apple is reporting the largest 4Q profits of any corporation in the history of business, something on the order of $13 billion on $46.3 billion in sales. Do you hear the far left screaming about windfall profit taxes for their favorite toy company? Hell no, not a chirp. Support slavery, buy Apple. Or anything else made in China.

Who me, crotchety today? Meh.

Here’s some striking looking model.


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Not that very many people ever read this far down, but this blog was the creation of Allan Kelly and his friend Vilmar. Vilmar moved on to his own blog some time ago, and Allan ran this place alone until his sudden and unexpected death partway through 2006. We all miss him. A lot. Even though he is gone this site will always still be more than a little bit his. We who are left to carry on the BMEWS tradition owe him a great debt of gratitude, and we hope to be able to pay that back by following his last advice to us all:
  1. Keep a firm grasp of Right and Wrong
  2. Stay involved with government on every level and don't let those bastards get away with a thing
  3. Use every legal means to defend yourself in the event of real internal trouble, and, most importantly:
  4. Keep talking to each other, whether here or elsewhere
It's been a long strange trip without you Skipper, but thanks for pointing us in the right direction and giving us a swift kick in the behind to get us going. Keep lookin' down on us, will ya? Thanks.


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