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Shenanigans in the Sunshine State

From the NRA/ILA, courtesy of several BMEWS readers:



Legislators Raid CCW Trust Fund - Try to Intimidate Governor

DATE:  May 11, 2009
TO:  USF & NRA Member and Friends
FROM:  Marion P. Hammer
USF Executive Director
NRA Past President

In a last minute sneak attack on gun owners, the Florida Legislature raided the concealed weapons and firearms licensing trust fund.  This not only effects resident CCW license holders, but non-resident Florida license holders as well!

They took $6 million from the Division of Licensing Concealed Weapons and Firearm Trust Fund that is intended, by law, to be used solely for administering the concealed weapons and firearms licensing program. (Read background information below)

Please Call, Fax, or Email Governor Charlie Crist IMMEDIATELY, and ask him to veto the $6 Million trust fund sweep from the Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services Division of Licensing authorized under Section 59 of the Conference Report of SB-2600.

Please send your email today!!

And/or please contact the Governor’s office by phone or fax ASAP.

Phone number: (850) 488-4441 or (850) 488-7146
Fax number:  (850) 487-0801

Send your email to the Governor at this address: Charlie.Crist@MyFlorida.com



BACKGROUND:

Right now, the concealed weapons and firearms licensing program is backlogged and overloaded, due in part, to the refusal of budget officials and the Legislature to allow the Division of Licensing to use its own trust fund money to hire more employees and expand/upgrade equipment.

Crates of unopened mail containing license and license renewal applications sit in storage. The backlog of mail sitting unopened, at times, has extended beyond 90 days while existing licenses are expiring because renewal applications haven’t been opened and processed.

Currently (although the Division of Licensing has been working weekend shifts to clear the backlog), it is taking 13-14 weeks to process a “perfect” application once it has been opened. That is an unequivocal violation of the law that requires issuance or denial of a license by a specific time –– a violation of law that legislative leaders are condoning by their actions.

THE LAW REQUIRES THE DIVISION OF LICENSING TO ISSUE A LICENSE WITHIN 90 DAYS OF RECEIPT OF THE APPLICATION—or deny the license “for cause”, based upon the criteria set forth in the law.  Theft of operating funds by the Legislature is not “just cause” for failure to issue licenses or renewals within 90 days.

While applications sit gathering dust, legislative leaders took $6 million of approximately $8 million held in the trust fund.  That $6 million is supposed to be used to pay employees, buy upgraded equipment, upgrade or replace computers or software and to otherwise administer the concealed weapons and firearms licensing program.

BUT, feigning a desperate need for funds for education and health care, legislative leaders recklessly and ruthlessly confiscated trust fund money.  Why?  Because they were building a so-called “working capital” fund for the 2010-12 legislative term, reported now to be in the neighborhood of $1.8 BILLION DOLLARS. This so-called “working capital fund” is for the use of future legislative leaders.

They didn’t take that money for education.  They didn’t take that money for health care.  They didn’t take that money to save jobs.  They didn’t take that money to avoid pay cuts, or budget cuts—they took the money to help build their own fund.

While Senate leadership reportedly fought to stop the ruthless raids on trust funds, in the end, they simply caved and let the House of Representatives prevail.

The bad behavior doesn’t end there.

Obviously fearing the Governor would use his line-item veto to stop trust fund raids, proviso language was inserted in the bill in a clear attempt to intimidate the Governor.

The proviso language, states that if any portion of the moneys swept from this and other trust funds does not become law (meaning it is vetoed), that portion of the money shall be deducted from the EDUCATION BUDGET.  This is clearly designed to keep the Governor from vetoing trust fund sweeps, and prevent trust fund money from being taken back out the House leadership’s so-called “working capital” fund.

Money in the concealed weapons trust fund came from gun owners. No money to administer and run the concealed weapons and firearms licensing program has ever come from general revenue, or any other state fund or revenue source.  The taking of these gun owner user fees is an unauthorized tax on the exercise of the Second Amendment.

AGAIN, Please call, fax and email Governor Crist IMMEDIATELY, and ask him to veto the $6 Million raid on the Concealed Weapons & Firearms Trust Fund!

Send your email to the Governor at this address: Charlie.Crist@MyFlorida.com

Please send your email today!!!!!

You may also call the Executive Office of the Governor at: (850) 488-7146.



Florida is usually a very pro-2A state. I don’t understand how this could have happened. But I can see it from an anti-freedom (ie gun control) perspective: Let the people have their little laws that allow them to Bear Arms. Charge them for this right, in terms of requiring a permit. Then take away all the processing money for the permit, so that it will never be processed, and thus never issued. Ta da, we now have kept everything legal, and still have kept those nearly crazy psycho gun nuts from walking around armed, just looking for schools full of children to shoot up.

Plus we can use the money to line our own nests, and channel to funds set aside to re-elect the incumbents. And we’ve set up the bill to have a built in strong arm tactic. Sweet, huh?

If I were a citizen of Florida, I’d be on my bully pulpit calling for the recall of every last legislative maggot who put their names on this piece of crap. But hey, if you live in Florida, you know that this is just business as usual. “Trust Fund” monies set aside AREN’T. Florida raids the environmental cleanup trust fund all the time. Same goes for the Transportation trust fund. What the hell, why not? The federal government does the same thing with Social Security. [Al Gore and his famous “lock box”. It may have been the only smart idea he ever had!]

Meanwhile, Florida Governor Charlie Crist (R) has announced he is running for the 2010 Senate. So expect him to be focused on campaigning from now until November. Just what a state in perpetual fiscal crisis mode needs.

It’s no different anywhere else. I heard on the news last night that California may have to declare bankruptcy. Um, can a state even do that? I don’t think so. But not a single one of them ever cuts back on state run programs, the size of state government, or anything. They just tax and spend and borrow and tax and spend and borrow. And never pay the piper.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 05/15/2009 at 01:58 PM   
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We’re Not Keeping Score

Here is a drag ‘n drop map of the Middle East and that corner of the world. Pull the names of all the countries onto their proper map areas. Good luck. Even after the 3rd try I still had 3 mistakes. Hey, come on. When was the last time Chad was in the news? Or any of The ‘Stans? So excuuuuuuse me!

But it does show that my geography skills are a bit lacking for that part of the world. I’d do just as poorly if they made one with South East Asia and the South Pacific. Sorry, but those places have almost no impact on world events. Fiji is just a name, even if they are on the verge of having a revolution. And I’d have a tough time spotting Malaysia; I had to look closely at a map to realize it shared half an island with the island nation of Indonesia, and that Indonesia shares half of another island with Papua New Guinea. Who knew, unless you’ve been there? To Google Maps these are literally just gray areas.

Anyway, here’s the link. Give it a try. Good luck. Please ignore everything else at that website. It’s a source for commie school books and other lefty indoctrination crap, afro-centric and socialist learning aides to teach your children that history isn’t “yourstory” ...

“A people’s pedagogy, like a people’s history, should alert students to deep currents of justice and equality in U.S. history, and in diverse ways encourage students to try on the personas of people who worked to make this a more democratic society. A people’s history and pedagogy ought to allow students to recognize that ‘we’ were not necessarily the ones stealing land, dropping bombs, or breaking strikes. ‘We’ were ending slavery, fighting for women’s rights, organizing unions, marching against wars, and trying to create a society premised on the Golden Rule.”

Oh GAK.

But hey, let’s not judge a book by it’s cover, or an educational reform web site by the books they cover. Here’s a nice long, erudite essay they posted on the mess that is the Chicago school system, and why Arne Duncan - who is now Obama’s Secretary of Education - may not have done such a great job.. Note the pro-union, pro-tenure, neighborhood centric viewpoint. Are they bashing military schools, or just refusing to comment on how effective they are? But most of the essay is an attack by the no money lefties against the big money corporate lefties I think. And I learned a new PC term: these days the Hispanic demographic has to be referred to as “latino/a”. It’s an insightful article, even if you take away nothing more than a bit of understanding into how some people’s minds work.

Um, I stand by my first reaction. Oh GAK.

But give the map thingy a try just for fun.



[ Drew pokes around the web page a bit more ... ]

Aww, shiite! The whole damn page is uber-lefty central. Get a load of this crock of shit, used by your children’s teachers to destroy pride in their country and to forward international socialism. Hey, it’s just one lesson in the wonderful textbook you can get right here! Teaching For Justice In An Unjust World.

An important part of a person’s understanding of global issues is the recognition of the dramatic inequalities between nations and social classes with-in countries.

The purpose of this activity is to graphically demonstrate the vast differences in wealth between different areas of the world. It combines math, geography, writing, and social studies.

We remind students of some of the things we learned about colonialism - such as how great quantities of silver and gold were stolen from the Americas and taken to Europe. We also explain that current relations between countries and international organizations such as the World Trade Organization also affect how wealthy countries are. We make sure that students know the following terms: resources, GNP, wealth, distribution, income, power, and colonialism.

GAK, GAK, and triple GAK.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 05/15/2009 at 12:37 PM   
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Slightly Naughty Bits

Air New Zealand ad campaign features ANZ staff wearing just body paint



“Oooh, I do love a man in uniform!” quips lady customer as naked pilots stroll by






Air New Zealand cabin crew have stripped off for a raunchy new advertisement where they carry out their duties wearing nothing more than body paint.

More than 90 Air New Zealand staff members are featured in the cheeky campaign, with eight donning only body paint. Chief Executive Rob Fyfe also took part in the ad, and was crowned New Zealand’s sexiest businessman as a result.

In the advertisement passengers are shown smiling knowingly and looking shocked at the body-painted staff, while a song appropriately titled “Under my skin”, by New Zealand singer Gin Wigmore, plays.

“I do love a man in uniform,” one female passenger says to her companion as two body-painted crew members walk past.

The body-painted crew’s “naughty parts” are blocked by the beverage cart and luggage, but the shocked and surprised look on the passengers’ faces says it all.

“I feel naked,” one staff member said of appearing body-painted in the ad.

“This is the most extreme thing I’ve ever done,” another staff member said.

The advertisement was created to promote the airline’s fares, which “have nothing to hide” - there are no extra fees for things like in-flight drinks or checking in. It is designed to differentiate Air New Zealand from their competitors.

“At Air New Zealand our fares have nothing to hide, which is why the price you pay includes everything upfront,” the advertisement states.

Naught naughty!

I’m amazed. Amazed that I got this story posted before Theo did. He always get the naughty bits out before everyone else!


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 05/15/2009 at 12:08 PM   
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Canterbury, the city that simply isn’t queer enough (according to equality campaigners)

HAS TO BE MY LAST POSTING FOR TODAY and so I am leaving you with this loony tune bit of whatever it is.
It’s another one of those ... I couldn’t make this up story.  And why not in PC England?

Yeah, another queer story but this just could not be ignored or avoided it is so G--damn over the top.
Not satisfied with all the other crap these abnormal folks have been given, one group now wants a CITY to be more queer friendly.
Hey .. didn’t I say it was loony tunes?

This is what occurs when blackmail is in charge. First it’s a parade and then it’s acceptance and then laws to protect, and then it just goes on and on.
I can’t imagine what’ll come next or what new fangled demand we’ll read about. But here’s the latest.

Apparently some folks think a city should announce how friendly it is to a particular group. Maybe every city in the country should be required to state how friendly they are to these people. Then extend that to muslims, the flat earth society, oh heck. Pick one.

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By Beth Hale
The Daily Mail

With its ancient cathedral and literary associations, you might regard Canterbury as one of Britain’s most cultured cities.
But for one section of society it seems, it is quite the opposite.
The campaign group Pride in Canterbury has condemned it as a ‘cultural wilderness’ because it has no gay bar and fails to extend a proper welcome to the homosexual community.

Historic: The city has an ancient cathedral, but is a ‘cultural wilderness’ for gays
Every year millions of people visit Canterbury Cathedral, a haven for pilgrims since the Middle Ages. The city’s place in literary history was secured by Chaucer’s Canterbury Tales.
But Pride in Canterbury is concerned with more present-day issues.

The local council, it says, has failed to ‘send out signals’ that gays are welcome.
As well as the absence of a suitable bar, a play staged at the city’s Marlowe Theatre presented a gay character in a ‘stereotypical’ way.

The group is awaiting the outcome of an official complaint to the local government ombudsman.
Spokesman Andrew Bretell said: ‘We do not believe the council wants a thriving lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community in our city.

‘They’re more interested in ticking their equality boxes than they are in dealing with the real issues.’

More...Blackpool bids for French visitors with ‘sophisticated’ new tourism campaign: watch the video here

The nearest gay bar is 17 miles away, in Margate, he added.

‘Unless they are sending out signals that they welcome gays, then they are not creating conditions where there is likely to be a gay bar.

‘We are not trying to turn Canterbu
ry into Blackpool or Brighton, but we do think it’s important for the gay community to have a focal point – somewhere they can go to and see LGBT culture.
‘The area doesn’t send out an image that it’s OK to be gay. We’re trying to work with the council to do this and don’t feel we have made big demands, but we have had no success.’

Last year, the group complained to Canterbury City Council. When that failed, it went to the ombudsman, which rules on the complaint next week.
The council’s chief executive Colin Carmichael said it refuted any suggestion that it does not want to engage with the gay community.

‘The council has provided Pride in Canterbury with funding of more than £4,000 since 2005 through our grants system to help them identify the needs of the gay community and promote their concerns.’
A source added: ‘No council in the land would set up a bar – gay or otherwise. It would be seen as a colossal waste of taxpayers’ money.’

There was also sympathy for the council on the streets.

Bernard Makin, 41, who runs a fast-food stall, said: ‘I can’t imagine a gay American bloke saying, “Well, I’d love to see one of the most beautiful cathedrals in the world – but let’s go somewhere else because there’s no gay bar”.’
The ombudsman has already told Pride in Canterbury its key complaints are unlikely to succeed.

MAIL

“The nearest gay bar is 17 miles away, in Margate,” he added.

Well so what?  It isn’t like you’d have to walk all the way in your ballet shoes. There are cars ya know. Jeesh.


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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 05/15/2009 at 11:35 AM   
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Gun Sales Still Surging

US Citizens buy nearly 1.25 MILLION guns in April

Sig gets Federal Agent contract worth $306 million

Federal markets special M1 and M1A ammo



The latest NICS numbers are in. Gun sales continue to surge. America is an armed camp. Barak Hussein Obama: world’s greatest gun salesman.

The upward trend in firearms sales continued in April, marking the sixth consecutive month of significant increases.  Data released by the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) reported 1,225,980 checks in April 2009. This figure is a 30.3 percent increase from the 940,961 reported in April 2008.

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FBI background checks are required under federal law for all individuals purchasing either new or used firearms from federally licensed retailers. The checks serve as a gauge of actual sales but do not reflect the actual number of firearms sold, since, following a background check, a customer may decide not to purchase a firearm or may purchase more than one firearm.

The April increase follows a 29.2 percent gain in March and rises of 23 percent in February, 28 percent in January, 24 percent in December and 42 percent in November when a record 1,529,635 background checks were performed.

The increase in NICS checks coincides with a rise in excise taxes reported by firearms manufacturers, another indicator of firearm sales.

According to the most recent Firearms and Ammunition Excise Tax Collection Report, released earlier today by the Department of the Treasury, firearm and ammunition manufacturers paid more than $98.1 million in the fourth calendar quarter of 2008, up 31.3% over the same time period reported in 2007.

Manufacturers of firearms and ammunition pay a federal excise tax — a major source of wildlife conservation funding — on all firearms and ammunition manufactured (11% on long guns and ammunition and 10% on handguns).

The report, which covers the time period of October 1, 2008, through December 31, 2008, shows that $27.6 million was collected for pistols and revolvers, $35.0 million for long guns and $35.5 million for ammunition. Compared to the same quarter in 2007, collections were up 70.1% for handguns, 11.4% for long guns and 31.1% for ammunition.

These figures close out the 2008 calendar year. In 2008, a total of $345.2 million was collected in excise taxes, up 13.9% from the $303.2 million collected in calendar year 2007.

“Demand for firearms and ammunition is clear,” said NSSF President Steve Sanetti. “Since the November elections we’ve seen an increase in firearm ownership coupled with an unprecedented level of attendance at firearm safety courses nationwide. Americans are buying firearms, and they’re taking the proper precautions to ensure that they exercise their individual Second Amendment rights safely and responsibly.”

What, you didn’t now the government already has a major tax on guns and ammo? Well ... neither did I. In theory it goes to conservation, like the duck stamp and trout stamp on your hunting and fishing licenses. That part I did know about: we have lots of animals and fish these days, and they have places to live, primarily because of hunters and fishermen. They support the animals through these voluntary taxes, and also through organizations like Ducks Unlimited and Trout Unlimited.

The excise tax is only paid for sales of new equipment. The NICS check is run for any gun sale, new or used, at a dealer. So it’s very safe to say that pistol sales are up an enormous amount. 70%!!

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Sig Sauer, Inc. Secures A $306 Million Pistol Contract By The U. S. Army’s Material Command

SIG SAUER, Inc. announced today that it has secured a multi-year contract to provide pistols to the U.S. Army’s Material Command. The potential value for all quantities and the related customer support package is $306 million.

“The gun that is to be supplied in the contract is the SIG SAUER SP2022 in 9mm.” said Bud Fini VP of Marketing Sig Sauer.

The initial order of 55,890 units is to be released as the standard sidearm for the entire Colombian National Police force. Shipments are to begin immediately with a second release of 42,000 pistols to follow.

Ron Cohen, President and CEO, stated that he is proud that SIG SAUER’s long standing reputation for superior reliability and quality has been recognized with this exceptional contract. Moreover, it provides an opportunity for SIG SAUER to continue to expand its manufacturing facilities and create U.S. jobs at a time when other companies are downsizing and exporting jobs overseas. Mr. Cohen further stated that the breadth of SIG customers is evidence of the worldwide acceptance and demand for SIG SAUER products.

These customers include numerous elite law enforcement, military, and government agencies (e.g. the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Secret Service, Navy Criminal Investigation Service (NCIS), U.S. Navy SEALs, U.S. Air Force OSI, British SAS, French National Police, and the Colombian National Police).

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the Sig 2022

I’ve got mixed feelings about this. I think Sig pistols are extremely well made. I’m glad that the pistols purchased will be made here in the USA in Sig’s New Hampshire factory. I just don’t happen to like the 2022 pistol, and I’m not thrilled that they chose the 9mm cartridge, when the .40S&W is so widely available. It’s just a better round for law enforcement use. I think the 2022 pistol is top heavy and unbalanced. I also think that it has an enormous grip, making it very difficult for anyone with hands smaller than grizzly bear paws to get a proper hold on the pistol. And that grip is nearly straight up and down, which is the least ergonomic angle you can find. Want to see ergonomics that work? Go look at a Luger. That grip angle is perfect for the human hand. Now go look at a Glock. Hmm, seems quite similar, what what? Take out your 1911 and look at that. Ok, that grip angle is a good bit less, but there’s still some there, and it’s much more than what the 2022 has.  The 2022 is not a pocket pistol. It is a full sized carry piece, whether your holster is exposed or concealed. The 2022 weighs 9 ounces less than a 1911 and is an inch shorter, but it’s a hair taller and thicker. And the barrel is 1.1” shorter - a full 20% shorter. And that puts you into the realm of major velocity loss. Nobody asked me, but I think there are better choices available.

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Federal Introduces Affordable Ammo for M1A, M1 Garand and .338 Federal Shooters

Federal® adds three ammunition options for those who want a little trigger time that won’t break the bank. Followers of the popular and specialized M1A and M1 Garand rifles now have affordable loads that offer superb accuracy. In addition, hunters and shooters sporting a rifle chambered in .338 Federal now have a consistent, reliable and economic option.

The M1A and M1 Garand are storied rifles that are very popular and have a huge following. A lot of the hunting ammunition today isn’t suitable for these special rifles. Federal now introduces two affordable, reliable American Eagle® options.

“We know there is a very large number of shooters who use the M1A and M1 Garand rifles at the range,” said Kyle Tengwall, director of marketing. “Whether it’s practicing for a competition, or just spending some time at the range, these shooters need affordable loads that perform well. These new loads cater to this special segment of shooters, and we’re proud to offer them something that shoots great and is available at price that can’t be beat.”

These special loads use staked primers to reduce the risk of firearm malfunction, including slamfires. The M1 Garand load features a 150-gr FMJ bullet and a carefully selected propellant that produces pressures that match the gas system design. The M1A load utilizes a 168-grain Open Tip Match (OTM) bullet that gives match-grade accuracy at an unbeatable price.

The M1 Garand was a 1930s design gas operated semi-automatic rifle. It used an operating rod fed by a direct gas port to unlock and open the bolt. It does not have any kind of pressure regulating device at the gas port, like the M1A does. This means that it is very picky about the kind of ammo it likes. Too much pressure at the gas port will slam the bolt open really hard, sometimes hard enough to crack the receiver. Too little pressure will not cycle the action. This really limits the performance of the rifle, even though the .30-06 cartridge loaded to Ball spec is effective well beyond 700 yards. You can load .30-06 so much hotter for use in a good bolt action rifle, and you can use a much wider range of bullet styles and weights. But that’s really a side issue. Not too many folks hunt with an M1. Most of them are used for rifle training these days, some for competition, and the rest have become wall hangers because this is what Grandpa carried in the Big War.

The M1A (the civilian version of the M14 rifle) is still alive and well in the competition world. It uses the 7.62 NATO (aka the .308) cartridge. You can load your own match ammo if you want, but you can’t crimp the primers. Both the M1 and the M1A close their bolts at very high speed, so crimped primers of military spec are a good idea. Most of us who load 7.62 match ammo have just got by putting a dab of clear nail polish on the primer, which does the job just fine.

The “new” .338 Federal cartridge is a reinvention of an old wheel, with a bit of extra polish thrown in. For decades the .338-06 was a wildcat round; a custom hand made cartridge you could not buy in any store. It was made by necking up the .30-06 case to use a .338” diameter bullet, which made it a great mid-range elk rifle. Another wildcat exists called the .35 Whelen, which is the same except it uses a .358” diameter bullet. The .35 Whelen is an awesome bear rifle cartridge. But both the .338-06 and the .35 Whelen have quite a bit of recoil. So Federal comes along and takes the “short action” route and applies the .338 wildcat concept to the 1/2” shorter .308 cartridge, and calls the result the .338 Federal. Actually, the .338-308 has been a wildcat for ages. But when one of the big companies gets their mitts on a cartridge, they register it with SAAMI and standardize the specifications, so they get to claim ownership. This has been going on for nearly 100 years. And the performance of the .338 Federal is right on par with the ancient 8x57 Mauser, a nearly identical cartridge that uses a .323” (8mm) bullet, that was developed over 100 years ago. Game animals haven’t become bigger and tougher since then. And ethical hunting demands that you don’t take a shot at game further than your ability to shoot accurately. That’s about 250 yards for most of us, even when using a scope. After that point, wind drift and range estimation really come into play, along with bullet BC and trajectory ... and it takes a LOT of practice to master all of that when your heart is hammering with Buck Fever. So a medium caliber bullet at medium velocity still does a superb job at medium ranges, without excessive recoil. That is never going to change. Good for Federal to bring some less expensive ammo to the market.

PS - the .338 Federal, the .338-06, and the .35 Whelen are all superb cartridges when loaded down and fed cast lead bullets. The .35 Whelen even works pretty well when stuffed with black powder. You can even make small game and practice ammo for the .35 Whelen using revolver bullets. So you can load these on the cheap, and still get a good 125 yard deer cartridge ... and most deer are shot at well under 100 yards. At least here in woods in the eastern part of the country. You really don’t need King Kong power to knock over deer. That’s why the “puny” .30-30 is still alive and well all these decades later. It does the job.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 05/15/2009 at 10:17 AM   
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A painting on a CD sleeve banned in some stores. Right or Wrong?

I didn’t have a clue that I’d be posting this for your opinions. In fact, I don’t even know who the heck they are talking about.
Here’s another one of those ... BUT…

I was off checking my email just now and on the left was a question, I read the question and thought, what’s that all about?
I didn’t have to read far as the ‘so called art’ caught my eye.  A bleeding beaten girl? It a painting but why?  And it’s on a CD cover.

Well, I’m not one for censorship and I do understand that what I call dreck (crap, something worthless, junk) others see as art. OK. Not my taste and I don’t think much of the person who creates this stuff.  Just another thing that coarsens the culture. What’s left of it anyway.

One thing that did surprise me were the comments made at the end of the story. (see the link) I am definitely in the old fart minority I guess.
Truth to tell however, I didn’t care for this sort of ‘art?’ when I was 20. I don’t understand it and don’t see the point of it. I also don’t understand the so called music group(s) with odd or silly names that are generally made up of would be musicians who haven’t really learned their instruments but simply bang away, bump and grind and screech the same tired line a hundred times to an equally talentless and tone deaf crowd ... BUT. 
That is NOT the subject here.

Some stores found the painting so distasteful that they have refused to stock the CD in it’s sleeve with THIS PICTURE .

But some of those complaining about this decision are also trying to compare magazines with sexy women and bare butts or photos of guns, with a picture of a girl with a bleeding face and a black eye, as though she’s been beaten.  I don’t see that comparison at all.  Do you? 
Alright. Some of you may not approve of semi-nude young women on display in the papers and magazines. But would you compare that to the picture here?

I’d rather see a photo a pretty lady or a beautiful car or even a blank cover, then be confronted by this at the checkout. But that’s me. Others will disagree.

Tastes sure have changed radically. And what a title.  Journal for plague lovers?  Oh how inventive and literate. But I’m sure it matches whatever they call music on that CD.


Manic Street Preachers Banned

Posted Fri 15 May 2009 11:34AM BST by Dave Rumour in Snap, Crackle and Pop

You probably wouldn’t know it looking at their rather tired 21st century image but the Manic Street Preachers used to be a quite terrifying prospect for some, full of provoctive teen rage, playing “Top Of The Pops” in balaclavas, while tragic lost member Richey Edwards famously slashed the words “For Real” into his bloody arm in a bid to impress former music journalist Steve Lamacq.

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They might be a lot older now but that’s not stopped their new album being banned by four of the UK’s big retail giants, with one supermarket calling the artwork “inappropriate”.

The cover for “Journal For Plague Lovers” (pictured) depicts a girl seemingly with a bloody and battered face and has been painted by acclaimed artist Jenny Saville. The record is considered a follow-up to the Welsh rockers’ landmark 1994 album “The Holy Bible”, which also featured one of her controversial works.

Sainsburys, Tesco, Asda and Morrisons have all refused to stock it with the original image, as Nicola Williamson, music buyer for Sainsbury’s explained: “We felt that some customers might consider this particular album cover to be inappropriate if it were prominently displayed on the shelf. “

The Manics have reacted with bafflement at the news, calling their decision “truly bizarre” and pointing to the fact that such shops regularly display products of a similarly graphic nature.

“We just thought it was a beautiful painting. We were all in total agreement”, explained singer James Dean Bradfield, continuing: “You can have lovely shiny buttocks and guns everywhere in the supermarket on covers of magazines and CDs, but you show a piece of art and people just freak out”. “Journal For Plague Lovers” is released on Monday but will only be available in these stores in a special sleeve provided by the publisher.


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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 05/15/2009 at 08:37 AM   
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A Death we should ALL be ashamed of? In your twisted dreams dumbass libtard jerk!

Wife says she’s gonna have my license to read newspapers taken away unless my language improves when reading the damn thing.

I really do try to use better language and not get too foul mouthed, and I’ll behave here right now as well.  BUT ... You read things like the story about those low life child molesters and suddenly there it is. RCOB. Right?

Sometimes I see things that are just so damn maddening and since I can’t shoot anyone .... Look ... take a gander at this dumb assed letter a local paper published this week.  I keep thinking this is either a bad joke or something written by a child at the prompting of adults.

I really hate stupid stuff with a passion.  And this is about as stupid as it gets.  It must be the work of a far left libtard.

A DEATH WE SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF
(in The Hampshire Chronicle)

Sir – On Wednesday afternoon a fortnight ago in this rich city full of wealthy people, full of churches and organizations, full of flourishing businesses, a young man died alone in a public toilet of a drug overdose.

The toilet attendant said that is was the fifth body he had found since working there.

We all need to take responsibility and feel shame that members of our city are so disillusioned, so neglected and so unrespected, that this can happen.

We have a lot of homeless people in our city, and a big drug problem and not enough is being done to help these people.

Drug addiction is an illness, a disease, it is not a life choice; no-one decides that it would be fun to become an addict and to live on the streets.

It happens because of emotional circumstances, low self esteem, family problems, and our culture’s lack of respect for each other, things we all experience.

The difference between someone with a drug problem and someone without is luck.

The difference between someone living on the streets and someone with a home is luck.

Next time you walk past, or use, the toilets opposite Iceland, think of a young man who died, slumped by the toilet bowl.

It could have been you, your son, your brother.

If one person in our neighborhood is without all that they need, it reflects on us all.

Helen Jones
Chesil Street
Winchester

Not one single word about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.  No mention of the use of recreational drugs which does in fact lead to addiction.
And the writer makes it appear that EVERYONE here is wealthy. Jeesh.  She needs to visit our place.
Talk about off in the twilight zone.  I think this ding-a-ling really believe this crap.  And btw, has she invented a new word? “unrespected?”

I would have thought the difference between being a drug addict and not being on drugs, wasn’t luck but personal choice and responsibility. I would have thought logic and common sense and some education via the stories published everyday, could have acted as a clue with regard to personal behavior. But no.  It’s our collective fault.  Or so she says. Hey, include me out.

Oh hell, I can go through this garbage line by line but you get the pix I’m sure.
I had to share this cause I found it to be first of all so damn stupid and also I thought it represented a pretty good snapshot of way left thinking which proves beyond doubt .... they’re nuts as well as stupid.


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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 05/15/2009 at 07:32 AM   
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calendar   Thursday - May 14, 2009

Try One And See

A big moment in the 458 household today ... my wife finally found the time to go and pick up her own new SP101 from the gun shop. So she is now an official gun owner, all legal and everything. Yay!

I guess I’ll be getting her a shooting range membership for her birthday. Money well spent. And now she and I have matching pistols. Isn’t that cute? LOL

We were talking to one of the ladies behind the counter. When my wife said she was here to pick up her new Ruger pistol, the woman asked if she had ordered an LCR. “Oh, you’ve got to try this pistol” she says, and brings out her own LCR to show us. Her gun is still new; she hasn’t yet put 2 boxes of ammo through it.

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Oh. My. God. I’ve never seen anything like it. Ok, it’s kind of strange looking, with a polymer lower, and aluminum frame, and the most pared down cylinder ever. But ... the pistol weighs almost nothing.  13.5 ounces. It’s very small, and for a revolver it’s very thin. The grips are small, but they fit perfectly. What little weight there is is balanced just right. And the trigger ... is orgasmic.

I’ve been around revolvers for ages. I’ve had my hands on dozens, maybe hundreds of different models. From antique to modern, from big to little, from all the top companies and from a number of unknown brands. And I know that Smith & Wesson has this ... cult following almost ... that touts what marvelous and wonderful triggers the S&W double action revolvers have. Up until now that belief has had some merit. Ruger revolvers are more noted for their beefy construction; “everybody knows” that Rugers have crunchy and heavy triggers when new. You have to shoot at least 500 rounds through them until they smooth out a little. And even if you do a lot of internal polishing and spring replacing, the best you’re going to get is something nearly as good as what S&W makes.

Those days are over.

The LCR has the finest, smoothest, easiest pulling trigger of any revolver ever made. Pretty much period. And this is a pistol with an internal hammer design - those pistols are infamous for awful triggers. Ruger shaped the LCR trigger perfectly. It’s thin, light, and very well radiused on the sides, so your finger just slides into place with no resistance at all. And unlike the internal hammer revolvers from Taurus and S&W, the initial part of the trigger pull does not require enormous effort while the latter part just falls through. The LCR pull is even, smooth, and quite light throughout the entire stroke. And I’m guessing that, since it’s still a Ruger, the trigger is only going to get better with time. There is only a slight bit of crunch on the backstroke, but the return is still light and positive.

This is a pistol that was designed from the ground up to be a carry piece, and it was designed to also fit people with smaller, weaker hands. Which it does. Ladies, this is what you want, if you want a purse gun with the rock solid reliability and zero learning curve of a double action revolver. Try one and see. If you do, you will be putting your name on the order list.

Oh, and the gun shop lady says hers is pretty accurate too. She has no trouble hitting a 6” paper plate target at 25 feet. That’s more than good enough for a pocket pistol.

The LCR is chambered in .38 Special +P. Which means it’s almost a .357 Magnum. And while a .357 Magnum is quite a lot of cartridge in a bigger pistol, in the short little barrel of a snubby the performance difference is very small compared to the .38 +P, except for a whole lot more noise and flash. It’s hardly worth the bother.

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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 05/14/2009 at 12:23 PM   
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Balack Obama just isn’t funny

Iowahawk does his own celebrity roast of Barry Sotero. And Wanda Sykes was not invited. He had a slightly more talented and famous guest panel ...

Listen folks, I know you came here expecting me to start hurling some tasteless insults at Barack Obama. But, seriously, I just can’t bring myself to do it. Barack is almost like another son to me.

(audience: awwwww)

Yeah, another jug eared idiot with a hard-on for horsefaced women. Barack was in London a couple weeks ago and rang me up, asked if he could drop by for tea. So he comes in, and I’m thinking, whoa—those Yanks have really stepped up their space program, he’s brought along a real live Klingon. Turns out it was his wife.

(rimshot)


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 05/14/2009 at 11:21 AM   
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Global Worming!!

On Tuesday it SNOWED

in SAUDI ARABIA

in the middle of MAY



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Horry clap!

Apparently it’s been snowing [in Saudi Arabia] - strange weather for the place at this time of year! Check out the photo.

According to a story in the Saudi Gazette and sourced to the American News Agency, the Associated Press, snow fell in Al-Baha city, to the south-west of Riyadh, on Tuesday.

Torrential rain poured down on Al-Baha accompanied by gusty winds. The nearby mountains received some snow too. It covered the valley areas and the forests of Al-Zaraeb and Khayrah, according to the report.

Don’t worry about the Saudis though. Today it’s going to be 91°F there.

There’s only one thing I want to know: Is Al Gore giving a lecture in Riyadh this week?


In related news, geophysicist David Deming writes on the Global Warming / Global Cooling hysteria, puts some actual science behind his words, and offers some good advice: bundle up.


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Posted by Drew458   United States  on 05/14/2009 at 10:58 AM   
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calendar   Wednesday - May 13, 2009

AT LAST. AT LONG LAST. Police chief slams crappy’ justice system. Now lets see if anything improves.

At long last, someone of some standing has spoken out and spoken very publicly and done so in front of the woman who is this islands equiv. of Att. General in USA.

She and her party and the powers that be have made a total mess of a once very efficient (in the opinion of many) police dept. respected around the world.  Over the years it has become a very politically correct dept. once headed by a chief who said he was “proud to be PC”

I won’t go into a list of what many consider the misdeeds of this person. If he’s out there reading this, Lyndon is very knowledgeable on the subject.
Anyway ... here’s what happened.  btw ... nobody is holding their collective breath that things will improve til this administration is history and her with it.

Jacqui Smith publicly mocked as police chief slams ‘Hokey Cokey’ justice system
By JAMES SLACK
Last updated at 7:59 PM on 13th May 2009

Jacqui Smith was yesterday publicly mocked by police for presiding over a ‘Hokey Cokey’ justice system that ‘ let all the prisoners out’.

With the Home Secretary sitting uncomfortably next to him on stage, Police Federation chairman Paul McKeever said officers are ‘sick to death’ of seeing the same criminals again and again.

At the Federation’s annual conference in Bournemouth, he added: ‘ The Government has created the Hokey Cokey criminal justice system.

‘Yes, conference, it’s in out, in out, let all the prisoners out. In out, in out, shake the system about.’

Mr McKeever also said officers view her with ‘real suspicion and distrust’ after clashes over pay, pensions and workplace reform.

Miss Smith was later harangued from the conference floor by rank-and-file officers about the MPs’ expenses scandal and the Government’s treatment of the Gurkhas.

During his speech, Mr McKeever described as a ‘big lie’ the belief that constant modernisation and reshaping of the police will solve crime more effectively.

‘We and the people we serve are being failed by the rest of the criminal justice system,’ he said.

‘A criminal justice system that isn’t working and is seen by many people as being there to protect offenders’ interests above the interests of law-abiding members of the public.

‘Rather than addressing the real problem of ineffective sanctions, ineffective education programmes and ineffective rehabilitation, the focus is on us, the police, to detect the same people more often and bring them before the courts again and again.’

Mr McKeever said the police are left in a ‘constant state of flux’ as politicians constantly demand change.

‘In effect, in the eyes of politicians, the police are the problem that needs to be solved, when the reality is that it is the criminals who are the problem and we are the solution,’ he added.

It is the second year running Miss Smith has had a tough time at the conference.

Last year former chairman Jan Berry taunted her with a pun about her lacking ‘balls’.

Both Miss Smith and Mr McKeever paid tribute to police officers who have recently been killed in the line of duty.


The Federation chairman called for those who kill police to ‘rot’ in jail for the rest of their lives.

Mr McKeever criticised the delay in awarding Detective Constable Stephen Oake – who was stabbed to death in a terror raid in 2003 – the Queen’s Gallantry Medal.

‘We should never have to wait five years to recognise our colleagues who make the ultimate sacrifice keeping safe the communities we serve,’ he said.

Miss Smith also praised the ‘hard work’ of police during the G20 protests last month.

But delegates denounced Independent Police Complaints Commission chairman Nick Hardwick, who publicly criticised officers before an investigation into their conduct at the G20 had finished.

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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 05/13/2009 at 03:10 PM   
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Queen’s Trinity Cross medal scrapped… because it’s ‘too Christian’. in an UPSIDE-DOWN WORLD

Yeah well, you just can’t have that sort of a thing in a country with a thousand year history of Christianity.  Not the done thing at all dear boy.

I think I would truly like to hang the person who originally breathed the first PC thought and translated it into our world.  What a G--Damn mess it has left us all with.

I wonder how many pilots who were non Christians ( like an uncle) and flew in the AAF or RAF and won a DFC, handed it back because it had a cross on it?  And how about the Iron Cross? Or the Maltese? 

Queen’s Trinity Cross medal scrapped… because it’s ‘too Christian’
By MAIL FOREIGN SERVICE

A medal personally established by the Queen is being withdrawn after it was deemed offensive to Muslims and Hindus.

The honour - known as The Trinity Cross of the Order of Trinity - has been ruled unlawful and too Christian.

It has been awarded to 62 distinguished residents of the former colony of Trinidad and Tobago over more than 40 years, including cricketers Brian Lara and Garfield Sobers, novelist V.S. Naipaul and many diplomats and politicians.

But groups representing the Caribbean islands’ Muslim and Hindu communities - which account for around a third of their 1.3million-strong population - had argued that the words ‘Trinity’ and ‘Cross’ were ‘overtly Christian’. They also said the use of a cross insignia was offensive.

Five British law lords, all members of the Privy Council, have ruled that the honour breached the right to equality and the right to freedom of conscience and belief.

The Council is an obscure body made up of senior politicians, bishops and peers.

They advise the monarch on the exercise of the Royal Prerogative and act as a final court of appeal for many former colonies.

In the judgment, Lord Hope of Craighead said that the Trinity Cross was ‘perceived by Hindus and Muslims living in Trinidad and Tobago as an overtly Christian symbol both in name and substance’ and as such breached the islands’ constitution of 1976.

It will be replaced with the Order of the Republic of Trinidad and Tobago - a circular medal featuring a sun, stars, water and a map of the islands.

Lawyer Anand Ramlogan of Hindu association Maha Saba said of the decision: ‘It’s a vindication of the 40 years of disquiet and unease silently suffered by the Muslim and Hindu communities whose legitimate grievance with the Trinity Cross was flippantly dismissed by successive governments.’

So how come none of you blithering fuckin idiots didn’t turn it down if given?  And how come when a white rep. of this or any western govt. visits your turd world countries, they all adopt your native dress code and go thru all your very stupid looking rituals in respect for your backward asses without complaint.  Bah ... ya’ll aren’t worth it, really you’re not. Are any of you schmucks familiar with the term,” It’s the thought?” What ungrateful ppl you are. 

The implications of the ruling are being studied by lawyers in the Cabinet Office, which oversees the honours system.

Hugh Peskett, editor-in-chief of Burke’s Peerage and Gentry, warned that changing the names of titles to remove Christian references would destroy hundreds of years of history. ‘Part of the significance of an honour is its antiquity,’ he said.

The Queen is due to visit Trinidad and Tobago - which won independence in 1962 - in November for the Commonwealth heads of government meeting.

THE CROSS


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Posted by peiper   United Kingdom  on 05/13/2009 at 01:08 PM   
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Gay rights campaigner led a double life as leader of paedophile ring.

Some of you I know are saying, oh what a surprise. They aren’t like that.
Actually, all of em aren’t like this.  But it sure as hell, is scary as hell, that any are exactly like this.

Generally I’m with Drew on the subject. I haven’t any need to attack anyone and can mind my own business as long as they aren’t hijacking good English words and insisting, as too many of them do, that I change my attitude with regard to their lifestyle.  It may be ‘normal’ for them but I’m unconvinced as ever that it doesn’t fly in the face of nature. 

Which bring me to this article. One of the subjects of which is a ‘campaigner for homosexual rights’ AND ... scary stuff here .. allow gay homosexual adoption of children.  But wait ... this gets downright disgusting.

There are a lot of photos of the guilty at the link.  I would be willing to bet my last dollar that these scummy bastards will NOT serve full jail time and at some point some shrink will declare some “cured” as tho that’s possible.  This is a very troubling story.  That folks like this exist at all is itself some sort of crime.

That some have been caught before and then been allowed to walk free after a time is also a crime. Every early release and every slap on the wrist creates another VICTIM!  I believe that to be true.

I’m fishing for words here and coming up blank. 

Read this and you will understand.  But a warning .... I read without expecting it and it was sickening.  I wish the heck I hadn’t to be honest. I’m posting it because I want people to know about this.  And for those of you here in the UK, study the faces well and if ever you should happen to see em in your neighborhood ........


Gay rights campaigner led a double life as leader of paedophile ring that carried out a catalogue of child abuse

By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

PHOTOS AND BIOS OF ACCUSED HERE

A paedophile ring has been smashed after eight men were found guilty of a horrifying catalogue of more than 50 child pornography and abuse charges.

Among the crimes was a shocking sexual attack carried out on a three-month-old baby boy by an executive adviser on child sex issues.

James Rennie, chief executive of a publicly-funded gay rights group, was one of the men exposed yesterday as members of Scotland’s biggest paedophile ring.

Rennie, 38, molested the toddler son of unsuspecting friends - a little boy he had been trusted to babysit - recording the abuse and sharing it with other perverts.

In the course of the police investigation, the boy’s parents were forced to watch a video of their baby son being violated by Rennie.

Last night, after the eight men were found guilty of a string of child sex charges at the High Court in Edinburgh, the child’s parents reacted with disgust.

They said: ‘For over 15 years, James Rennie seemed the closest of family friends and it is hard to put into words the extent of the betrayal he has exacted upon us.’

During their investigations, police recovered tens of thousands of still and moving images of the most vile child abuse

Police sources revealed yesterday that the activities of 70 other men around the UK with links to the case are being investigated.

More than 35 people have been arrested or been subject to enforcement action. Two investigations are continuing in Scotland.

One of the most worrying aspects of the case is the way Rennie was able to reach a position where he could influence Executive policy on child sexuality.

A trained teacher, Rennie became the boss of LGBT Youth Scotland, a publicly-funded support group for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender young people.

He took on the £40,000 a year role when the group was set up in 2003 and became the Executive’s most important and influential adviser on gay issues affecting children.

Under his leadership, the group backed proposals to allow gay queer adoption. As well as appearing in the Scottish parliament, he was invited to a Royal Garden Party and to Downing Street.

Yesterday, Rennie, from Edinburgh, was found guilty of indecently abusing the baby boy. The abuse began when the child was three months old and continued for several years. Rennie filmed and photographed himself committing the abuse, sent the images to others and allowed another man to listen on the phone while he molested the child.

He allowed the boy, whom he called his ‘nephew’, to be abused by another paedophile and also offered him to other deviants in a series of emails.

When his home was raided in December 2007, Rennie had gone to the trouble of hiding computer hard drives, discs and CDs in a gap next to the water tank in his kitchen. Between these storage devices and his laptop computer, he was found to be in possession of thousands of images, many of them at the most extreme level of the scale.

Rennie carried out his vile activities as part of a Scottish paedophile ring swapping images of child pornography on the internet.

He was suspended as soon as LGBT Youth Scotland was told of his arrest in December 2007 and resigned soon afterwards.

Last night, a spokesman for LGBT Youth Scotland, which received £1.1million in 2008 from the Executive, councils and health boards, said: ‘We are appalled by the abuse and exploitation of children by James Rennie, and wholeheartedly welcome his conviction. Our immediate thoughts are with the children and families who have been directly, and indirectly, abused by him and the other co-accused also convicted.

‘We had no suspicion whatsoever of the crimes James Rennie was committing. He was obviously skilled at hiding his actions and adept at deceiving people. There is no suggestion James Rennie directly threatened the safety of young people accessing our services.’

Last night the Executive said that it would continue to fund LGBT.

When he was arrested, Rennie had a steady boyfriend, but trawled the internet looking for gay sex dates.

He also used the internet to meet other paedophiles, including Neil Strachan, a child molester who was jailed for three years at Edinburgh Sheriff Court in 1997 for abusing a boy of between five and seven.

Strachan, 41, joined Rennie for a sex session with Rennie’s ‘nephew’ at his flat in Meadowbank when the boy was between one and three.

Rennie then boasted about the encounter to another paedophile, Lachlan Anderson, 51, from Cumbernauld, Dunbartonshire. Anderson is currently serving a 20-month sentence after being caught with a collection of child pornography, including images of Rennie abusing the child. He was brought from jail to give evidence at the trial.

Strachan was found guilty of attempting to sodomise a different 18-month-old toddler on the night of Hogmanay 2005 at his flat in the Dalry area of Edinburgh.

Last night, the boy’s mother said: ‘ The anguish I feel towards Mr Strachan is indescribable.

‘I feel that no matter what punishment is given to Mr Strachan it will never be able to compensate for the hurt, devastation and great deal of stress brought to me and my family.

‘Mr Strachan used and abused our trust in order to satisfy his and others’ sick needs.’

Strachan’s 23-year-old boyfriend Colin Slaven was cleared of taking part in the sex act, which was photographed and sent to Rennie.

Rennie involved John Milligan, 40, in his sick acts by allowing him to listen to the baby boy being abused.

Milligan also discussed getting his hands on the child - and passed on images of Rennie’s abuse to others.

The paedophile ring was uncovered when photos of naked boys were found on Strachan’s computer. He handed it in for repair at a company in England in 2007.

A computer engineer found one indecent image of a child on the machine and police were called in.

An examination by Northumbria Police revealed other images.

The inquiry moved to Edinburgh, where Operation Algebra was set up in October 2007 by Lothian and Borders Police.

Detective Superintendent Allan Jones, senior investigating officer in Operation Algebra, said of the men: ‘Many of them wouldn’t stand out from a general member of the public; but in the background they lead this double life, looking at some of the most vile material you would ever care to imagine.

‘Quite what motivates them and why they take this course of action I really don’t know. What I do know is we can’t be forgiving of it and we’ve got to pursue it to the nth degree to make sure that this material is stopped.’

A jury found Rennie, Strachan, Milligan, Ross Webber, 27, and Craig Boath, 24, guilty of plotting to arrange access to children to carry out acts of gross sexual abuse. It is the first time a conspiracy charge has been used successfully in Scotland to convict perverts.

Church bell ringer Neil Campbell, 46, was cleared of that charge. But all six, along with Slaven and John Murphy, 44, were found guilty of charges relating to child pornography.

Having been convicted of actual physical abuse of children, Rennie and Strachan face a possible life sentence.

Prosecutor Dorothy Bain, QC, asked for ‘a full risk assessment’ which would allow the court to impose an order for lifelong restriction - under which a judge imposes a minimum sentence but the accused are only freed when the parole board considers it safe to do so.

They then remain under strict supervision for the rest of their lives.

Judge Lord Bannatyne said: ‘I am going to go down that route and investigate an order for lifelong restriction for both these accused.’

All eight men were remanded in custody to await sentence.


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